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swiggidy

01-19-2008, 08:55 PM Post subject: 25PLO - 3 more line checks

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Hand 1 - villain snap bet river

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP ($31.80)
Button ($25.45)
SB ($13.90)
BB ($21.90)
Hero ($41.40)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J

, J

, 4

, A

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Hero raises to $0.5, 1 fold, Button calls $0.50, 1 fold, BB calls $0.25.

Flop: ($1.60) 6

, 9

, T

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.55, Button folds, BB calls $1.55.

Turn: ($4.70) 9

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4.

River: ($12.70) 9

(2 players)
BB bets $12.1, Hero ...

Hand 2 - I'm sure folding pre is best

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

MP ($14.75)
CO ($58.70)
Button ($57.90)
Hero ($24.75)
BB ($15.90)
UTG ($16.95)

Preflop: Hero is SB with

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1 fold, MP raises to $0.5, CO calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.40, BB calls $0.25.

Flop: ($2.50)

(5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets $2, CO folds, Button folds, Hero calls $2, BB folds.

Turn: ($6.50)

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $5, Hero folds.

Hand 3 - river bruff. I usually don't raise this pre.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

MP ($15.90)
CO ($10.40)
Button ($8.80)
Hero ($27.70)
BB ($26.20)
UTG ($15.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with

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UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50.

Flop: ($4)

(5 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($4)

(5 players)
Hero bets $3, UTG calls $3, MP folds, CO calls $3, Button folds.

River: ($13)

(3 players)
Hero bets $6,

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twosevoff

01-19-2008, 10:59 PM

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Hand 1 I probably call on river, lots of draws missed and there's a good chance he's trying to push you off a straight.

Hand 2 preflop is marginal but fine ds w/ the ace. Folding is absolutely horrible on the turn here, especially with the 888 blocker. Either jam the flop or turn (I like flatting flop jamming non club turn).

Hand 3 I bet flop. I guess you are making a blocking bet on the river? I just check/fold river.

swiggidy

01-19-2008, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by twosevoff

Hand 2 preflop is marginal but fine ds w/ the ace. Folding is absolutely horrible on the turn here, especially with the 888 blocker. Either jam the flop or turn (I like flatting flop jamming non club turn).

Not sure about this. I basically fold everything I'm ahead of and never fold out hands I'm beating.

This situation in general is something I don't get and should probably devote some time to thinking about (or searching for ISF threads, haha). It seems like we might as well pot the turn with air because our hand isn't much better.

At 25PLO people don't fire multiple barrels too often. I like calling turn, c/f river better than c/r turn, but maybe I'm way off.

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salsa4ever

01-19-2008, 11:49 PM

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villain could well ave one pair putting u on a draw
i.e. not enuf stack left to fold given moderate pot on turn

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swiggidy

01-20-2008, 12:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by salsa4ever

villain could well ave one pair putting u on a draw
i.e. not enuf stack left to fold given moderate pot on turn

good point.

Hand 3 I should def have bet the flop. Actually looking back over it I'm pretty much embarrassed by everything I did in this hand.

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twosevoff

01-21-2008, 08:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swiggidy

He could have tons of hands that you're way ahead of and that he probably won't fold including: an A-high flush draw, a king with a flush draw, AA with or without a flush draw, 78 with clubs, K8xx or K7xx with or without clubs. OTOH, the only realistic hand that beats you is KKxx, (88xx is unlikely b/c you have the blocker)

c/c turn c/f river is an incredibly disgusting line here, just c/r pot on turn. I am 100% sure that this is the right play.

swiggidy

01-21-2008, 09:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by twosevoff

c/c turn c/f river is an incredibly disgusting line here, just c/r pot on turn. I am 100% sure that this is the right play.

I missed the stack size before. Do you still use this line if villain is 100bb deep?

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twosevoff

01-22-2008, 11:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swiggidy

Quote:

Originally Posted by twosevoff

c/c turn c/f river is an incredibly disgusting line here, just c/r pot on turn. I am 100% sure that this is the right play.

I missed the stack size before. Do you still use this line if villain is 100bb deep?

I would use it up to about 150bb deep. Any more than that and I just c/c all three streets assuming no scare cards.

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