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Old 01-17-2007, 03:56 PM     Post subject: 20 hands... #1 (permalink)  
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... where I think I played badly, spewied, or I'm just not sure.

Review Plz? Be mean.


******* Hand 1 ********

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 4 4
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 5 2 5 (8SB, 4 players)
SB bets, BB raises, UTG folds, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: 9 (8.5BB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls.

River: T (11.5BB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: 11.5BB
SB Shows 6h 6d


******* Hand 2 ********

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 5 5
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises, CO folds, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 2 A 7 (7.5SB, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 4 (4.75BB, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls.

River: J (6.75BB, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: 6.75BB
UTG+1 Shows 7s 9s


******* Hand 3 ********

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 5 5
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 4 4 2 (9.5SB, 3 players)
BB bets, UTG folds, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls.

Turn: 3 (8.75BB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

River: T (10.75BB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: 10.75BB
BB Shows Jd Jh


******* Hand 4 ********

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with 5 5
UTG calls, CO folds, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, BB folds, UTG calls, Button caps, Hero calls (11:1), UTG calls.

Flop: 2 T 8 (13SB, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button bets, Hero calls (14:1), UTG folds.

Turn: 2 (7.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls (8.5:1).

River: 4 (9.5BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Results:
Final pot: 11.5BB
Hero Shows 5c 5h
Button Shows Jc Js


******* Hand 5 ********

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with 7 7
Hero raises, CO calls, Button raises all-in $3, BB folds, Hero calls (8.5:1), CO calls.

Flop: 8 T T (10.5SB, 3 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 10.5SB)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Turn: 6 (6.25BB, 3 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 5.25BB, Sidepot 1: 1BB)
Hero bets, CO calls.

River: K (8.25BB, 3 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 5.25BB, Sidepot 1: 3BB)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Results:
Final pot: 8.25BB
Button Shows Ah 5h
CO Shows 8s 9s
Hero mucks 7d 7s


******* Hand 6 ********

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 7 7
3 folds, Hero raises, SB folds, BB 3-bets, Hero calls (5.5:1).

Flop: 9 J J (6.5SB, 2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls (7.5:1).

Turn: Q (4.25BB, 2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls (5.25:1).

River: J (6.25BB, 2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls (7.25:1).

Results:
Final pot: 8.25BB
BB Shows Kh Kc


******* Hand 7 ********

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 7 9
2 folds, CO raises, 2 folds, Hero calls (3.5:1).

Flop: T 7 7 (4.5SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: 4 (2.25BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

River: Q (4.25BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, CO caps, Hero calls (11.25:1).

Results:
Final pot: 12.25BB
CO Shows 7h Ad


******* Hand 8 ********

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 3 4
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 6 4 3 (5SB, 5 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, 2 folds, Button calls, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: 9 (8.5BB, 3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls (9.5:1), Button calls.

River: Q (11.5BB, 3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls (12.5:1), Button raises, SB folds, Hero calls (15.5:1).

Results:
Final pot: 16.5BB
Button Shows Jd 5d


******* Hand 9 ********

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 4 A
3 folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 3 5 4 (3SB, 3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls (4:1), Button calls.

Turn: 2 (3BB, 3 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, Button folds, SB 3-bets, Hero calls (8:1).

River: 9 (9BB, 2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls (10:1).

Results:
Final pot: 11BB
SB Shows 6s 8h


******* Hand 10 ********

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 8 T
2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 7 4 9 (4SB, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, Button bets, SB calls, Hero calls (6:1), CO calls.

Turn: 8 (4BB, 4 players)
SB bets, Hero calls (5:1), CO raises, Button folds, SB 3-bets, Hero calls (10:2), CO calls.

River: T (13BB, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, SB calls, Hero calls (15:1).

Results:
Final pot: 16BB
CO Shows 6h 5h


******* Hand 11 ********

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with Q T
2 folds, Hero raises, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 4 9 7 (6SB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero calls (7:1), SB folds.

Turn: 4 (4BB, 2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls (5:1).

River: 4 (6BB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: 6BB
BB Shows 7c 6d


******* Hand 12 ********

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 5 3
2 folds, Button calls, SB folds, Hero checks.

Flop: 3 T 5 (2.5SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button calls.

Turn: 9 (3.25BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls (6.25:1).

River: T (7.25BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls (8.25:1).

Results:
Final pot: 9.25BB
Button Shows 10h 9d


******* Hand 13 ********

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with Q K
4 folds, Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: 7 7 5 (4SB, 2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: J (3BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls (6:1).

River: Q (7BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls (8:1).

Results:
Final pot: 9BB
BB Shows Qd 7d


******* Hand 14 ********

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with Q A
UTG folds, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 9 2 K (4.5SB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: 6 (3.25BB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: K (3.25BB, 2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls (4.25:1).

Results:
Final pot: 5.25BB
BB Shows 2s Qc
Hero mucks Qh As


******* Hand 15 ********

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with A Q
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG caps, Hero calls (13.5:1), CO calls, BB calls.

Flop: 2 Q K (16.5SB, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls (17.5:1), CO calls, BB calls.

Turn: A (10.25BB, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls (11.25:1), 2 folds.

River: 6 (12.25BB, 2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls (13.25:1).

Results:
Final pot: 14.25BB
UTG Shows As Kh
Hero mucks Ac Qh


******* Hand 16 ********

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with A T
2 folds, Button calls, SB folds, SB folds, Hero raises, Button calls.

Flop: 4 K K (4.5SB, 2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Turn: J (3.25BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: 5 (3.25BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Results:
Final pot: 3.25BB
Hero Shows Ah 10s
Button Shows 2h 2s


******* Hand 17 ********

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
4 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with K Q

Uncalled bets: 1 returned to .

Flop: 8 Q T (1.5SB, 4 players)
UTG calls, Hero bets, SB calls, BB folds, UTG raises, Hero calls (5.5:1), SB calls.

Turn: 5 (3.75BB, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, SB calls, UTG calls.

River: 4 (6.75BB, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG is all-in $0.5, Hero raises, SB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 8.5BB


******* Hand 18 ********

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with J J
2 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, 2 folds, Hero raises, CO calls.

Flop: A 2 A (4.5SB, 2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Turn: 2 (3.25BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls (4.25:1).

River: 9 (5.25BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls (6.25:1).

Results:
Final pot: 7.25BB
CO Shows As 10c


******* Hand 19 ********

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with Q Q
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises, 3 folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: T 5 9 (6.5SB, 2 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: A (4.25BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero calls (7.25:1).

River: 8 (8.25BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 calls all-in $1.38.
Uncalled bets: 0.31BB returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: 9.63BB
Hero Shows Qc Qh
UTG+1 Shows Kh As
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Old 01-17-2007, 05:36 PM #2 (permalink)  
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OK Euph....

I'm a bit dissapointed reading some of these, but i'm glad you posted them. The first step to getting help is admitting you have a problem.

First thing I will say to you is remember who you are playing against. This isn't the 10/20 6max meta game. This is lee jones "winning low limit holdem type poker", ABC poker will beat this game. If you have a hand bet it, if you don't fold.


They don't bluff often enough to try catching them in small pots.
They don't fold.
They don't bluff.
They raise the turn with monsters.
They don't fold.

I haven't played LHE in a long time, and I barely beat the short handed, but this is what I htink.

Remember yoru playing low limit poker.

#1
fold the flop

#2
Don't 3bet 55

#3
Don't 3bet 55..
Do not cap the flop

#4
fold the flop, or the turn.

#5
I pretty much go the same way here

#6
Fold the flop

#7
Don't slow play.
that sucks

#8
maybe raise the turn too. Cry and call... I don't lay this down often in pots that large

#9
I do'nt fold this one either.

#10
fold the turn..
don't overcall the river

#11
You ARE allowed to fold a missed flop.. certainly a missed turn too.

#12
Yep

#13
you got your flop bet called give up on the blink turn!

Fold your missed KQs to that turn raise!

#14
fold the river! don't try and catch bluff in a small pot.

#15
at least you had the sense to slow down.

#16
Yea..

#17
i don't think i try and squees the rest of this river bet out 3 way.

#18
fold the river

#19
with a read you need to fold the turn.


I know I don't explain my reasoning, but if you have questions about certain ones go ahead and ask.
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Old 01-17-2007, 09:59 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 Overall I believe you are playing hands too agressively. You should be taking more free cards and hoping for more check-throughs OOP.

Now for the individual hands

Hand 1

Unless I have some sort of read I have no problem folding this flop. Also. opening 44 from the CO is meh to me, especially with loose blinds

Hand 2
3betting isolating with 55 is good if you think lowly of UTG+1.
As played don't you have to fire a third barrell?

Hand 3
Fold PF
I actually watched you play this hand so I know the results of it. You bet 1 too many streets IMO. What do you think you are beating that 3bets the flop? These type of players don't do that with A2 here, they just don't. You seriously overrepped your hand 3betting PF and capping the flop. That being said you pick up a ton of outs on the turn if you're against a hand like 77/88/99 so betting the turn allows you to take a free showdown and get 1 bet in.

Hand 4
I watched this hand too and I knew what you were doing the whole way. Just make sure you realize that you were capped PF and villian bet the turn. At these levels I am never donking the river after that line, it's just way too strong for what these players are capable of doing.

Hand 5
Really don't think there is anything you can do about this. Opening 77 in these games is borerline. All you really need is for CO/BTN to be passive to have it work. Didn't work this time but we cannot be results oriented. Rest of the hand looks fine.

Hand 6
Learn how to fold a flop when you get 3bet PF and totally miss

Hand 7
Assuming you were trying to c/r the flop or go c/c c/r. I probably get screwed into 3betting the river too but when I get capped I might think about folding (I never would BTW)

Hand 8
LOOOK AT BUTTONS LINE THROUGHOUT THE HAND. Excuse the caps but there is nothing else he could have euph, nothing. Being right 6% of the time here is not enough as this is a flush. He has to have a Ad5d IMO.

Hand 9
I don't raise the turn here b/c we're looking at a chop at best. Really doubt SB could bet that turn without at least an Ace.

Hand 10
You're getting 5:1 to call a draw which completes itself.....5:1. Anyways, your out are not all there b/c you know someone has drawn to a straight already. It's close but I could see myself folding the turn. The river is a pretty easy call though.

Hand 11
Raise/fold the flop. No other choice.

Hand 12
Worst hand I think you played besides Hand 11. You beat absofuckinglutley nothing on the river.

Hand 13
I almost want to c/r this river but I'd just call.

Hand 14
I like the call, you're good here against a lot of hands

Hand 15
You played it well postflop. Why did you finally believe a villian this time after strong PF play? What was different about this opponent.

Hand 16
I 3 barrell here, you have to be ahead of the range a button would limp with.

Hand 17
Eh, you knew UTG had you beat so you try and win 2 more bets out of SB? Is that the case?

Hand 18
B/f turn and river

Hand 19
Dude you have to fold to the turn raise unless villian is capable of bluffing big streets. Unless his AF tells me he is I have no problem saying "nh"

Hand 20
played flawlessly
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1: fold flop.
2: with no read, fold preflop.
3: with no read, fold preflop.
4: hate these situations. got a read? i CC a big % here.
5: got a read? river bet can be for value sometimes.
6: got a read? i usually let this go on the turn, otherwise call down.
7: meh.
8: not sure why you slowed down on a safe card on the turn...if anything, a 3bet tells you you're behind a set. river sucks here, too bad you're getting 15:1.
9: raise flop. otherwise good.
10: i bet this flop myself.
11: i fold turn.
12: fold the river.
13: river block bet. call raise.
14: unless you're planning on calling down regardless, bet the turn again.
15: i don't see a reason not to raise the turn here...
16: looks ok.
17: he got no money...doesn't really matter.
18: bet turn, call down.
19: usually you're beat here, but he got no money.
 
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Old 01-18-2007, 04:01 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:11 PM #6 (permalink)  
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hmmm...wicked crazy ninja bump?

In all honesty I think you are not adjusting your game to the style of that of your opponents. The fact that illustrates this the most is your willingness to 3bet these small pairs. I know you're trying to isolate against the opener but it just really doesn't work that way at these levels. Now you get stuck playing a multiway pot with a small pair. I also do not think you are respecting your opponents enough when they raise/3bet you on streets. Unless they have some crazy AF you really have to start considering folding on the bigger streets. The majority of these players just cannot make moves like you're used to seeing at 5/10 and 10/20 Euph, they just cannot.

I know you're running a HUD but are you practicing good table/seat selection?
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The problem is I'm not even closed to used to playing the 60/30s and 80/20s anymore. The ones who call down any piece and reraise third pair. The ones who will call a river bet with K high after they miss their flush draw.

One more hand: Villain is aforementioned 70/10 type. The turn was a great card to bluff on, and the river either fucked me or is another great card to bluff on. But I missed that ... They. Dont. Fold.

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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with J J
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, CO caps, 3 folds, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 4 3 T (13.5SB, 3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, CO raises, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Turn: T (8.75BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero raises, CO calls.

River: A (12.75BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Results:
Final pot: 14.75BB
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Old 01-18-2007, 07:06 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 I like it. Were you going to b/f the river?
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:22 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 Im torn on the river line. Asxs just got there. However, KK/QQ has to hate that card. AK also got there. I really dont know. Im leaning towards b/f because KK/QQ could find a fold and you might get value out of a bad player holding 99/88 type hand.
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Quote:
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The problem is I'm not even closed to used to playing the 60/30s and 80/20s anymore. The ones who call down any piece and reraise third pair. The ones who will call a river bet with K high after they miss their flush draw.

One more hand: Villain is aforementioned 70/10 type. The turn was a great card to bluff on, and the river either fucked me or is another great card to bluff on. But I missed that ... They. Dont. Fold.
i think you answered your own question. i just check call down.
 
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