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StinkyBeaver
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09-06-2005, 06:05 PM
Post subject: 2 hands from 3/6
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Hand 1: I think it is standard..? I'm calling a bet on river.
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is BB with J , A .
2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero raises, CO calls, SB calls.
Flop: (6 SB) Q , T , J (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB folds.
Turn: (4 BB) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.
River: (6 BB) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.
Final Pot: 6 BB
Hand 2: To much or..?
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 , 8 .
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG calls.
Flop: (6 SB) 4 , J , 9 (4 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG calls.
Turn: (4 BB) 9 (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls.
River: (6 BB) A (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 8 BB
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Fnord
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Playing 6 max without reads is like taking a piss with the lights off. You're going to end up spraying too much and will probably smell a little too.
Hand 1: I bet this river almost always in a short-handed game.
Hand 2: I think bet/fold and check/fold are better river lines in this spot. Do UCY?
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elipsesjeff
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6 max game:
H1: Bet/call
H2: Bet/Fold.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
H1: Bet/call
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I don't think a lot of players in that game will raise a worse hand on the river often enough to call without a read.
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
H2: Bet/Fold.
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If it's a passive post-flop player who'll check behind pairs, I'd rather check/fold this one. Anyway, the UTG limp should tell us a lot about his hand...
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StinkyBeaver
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Hand 1: Damn I do miss valuebets.... Well ok Im learning SH.
Hand 2: Why is bet/fold a better line. B/C we can fold a few hands that have us beat..? ( the way the hand went I induced a bluff from QT) but I wouldn't have posted If it wasn't b/c I was in serious doubt about my river call.
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jmontis
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I don't even like hand2, I just simply avoid playing an underpair aggressively against 2 overcards, but folding the river is atrocious after going that far
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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elipsesjeff
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[quote="Fnord"]
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
H1: Bet/call
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I don't think a lot of players in that game will raise a worse hand on the river often enough to call without a read.
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Maybe you havent played enough 3/6 6 max lately....
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Originally Posted by fnord
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
H2: Bet/Fold.
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If it's a passive post-flop player who'll check behind pairs, I'd rather check/fold this one. Anyway, the UTG limp should tell us a lot about his hand...
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The only reason I check the river in hand 2 is if I plan on calling a bet. I dont want to get raised on the river and be forced to call another bet and the small likelihood of inducing a bluff makes it a profitable play.
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StinkyBeaver
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Anyways he was something like 60/25/2 so very laggish and therefore I called the river bet.
how about rest of the hand bet flop: I'll do this very often/always here
Turn: I still think I need to bet/fold..?
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StinkyBeaver
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One more hand for analysis.
Question is how do I play turn and river.? :
I continue bet on turn since I picked a gutshot and should MP be on a flush draw then I'll not let him have any freecard.
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is BB with J , T .
1 fold, MP calls, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.
Flop: (3 SB) J , A , 8 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP calls, SB folds.
Turn: (2.50 BB) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets, MP calls.
River: (4.50 BB) A (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 6.50 BB
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StinkyBeaver
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Comments.,, Should I not raise flop and just call call call..?
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is CO with A , 3 .
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, 1 fold, SB raises, 1 fold, UTG calls, Hero calls.
Flop: (7 SB) J , A , 7 (3 players)
SB bets, UTG folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls.
Turn: (6.50 BB) 4 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero folds.
Final Pot: 7.50 BB
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Fnord
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Hand 4: The flop raise sucks and the turn fold is worse. Way ahead/behind. Let him put as many chips into the pot as he wants. If he checks it's an easy bet.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
Maybe you havent played enough 3/6 6 max lately....
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Maybe. Most bad smaller stakes players expect to be called here, hence tend to make moves on earlier streets and slow play big hands.
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