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Old 09-23-2008, 05:02 AM     Post subject: 2-73X draw: 8 game Sng #1 (permalink)  
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 PokerStars Game #20623486383: Tournament #109856912, $12+$1 8-Game (Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit) - Level I (30/60) - 2008/09/23 0:59:19 ET
Table '109856912 1' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Forty2u (1635 in chips)
Seat 2: FATP (1485 in chips)
Seat 3: GreeenRiver (1455 in chips)
Seat 4: thejim2020 (1470 in chips)
Seat 5: booya25 (1725 in chips)
Seat 6: 77Stephen (1230 in chips)
thejim2020: posts small blind 15
booya25: posts big blind 30
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to Forty2u [7s 5s As Ts 6s]
77Stephen said, "nh"
77Stephen: calls 30
Forty2u: raises 30 to 60
FATP: folds
GreeenRiver: folds
thejim2020: folds
booya25: folds
77Stephen: calls 30
*** FIRST DRAW ***
77Stephen: discards 3 cards
Forty2u: discards 2 cards [As Ts]
Dealt to Forty2u [7s 5s 6s] [2d Jh]
77Stephen: bets 30
Forty2u: calls 30
*** SECOND DRAW ***
77Stephen: discards 1 card
Forty2u: discards 1 card [Jh]
Dealt to Forty2u [7s 5s 6s 2d] [3d]
77Stephen: bets 60
Forty2u: raises 60 to 120
77Stephen: raises 60 to 180
Forty2u: calls 60
*** THIRD DRAW ***
77Stephen: stands pat
Forty2u: stands pat on [7s 5s 6s 2d 3d]
77Stephen: bets 60
Forty2u: calls 60

DO you cap on the 2nd draw ?
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Old 09-23-2008, 05:11 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 you have #3, I'd assume your opponents are pretty awful, so yea, I'd cap there.
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Old 09-23-2008, 07:07 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Playing 567 at all predraw is horrifying, just muck it. I'd raise 2567 as well, he drew three so it's very unlikely he has a hand that beats you, probably he just has a one card draw that you're a favorite against. I would cap and raise the river if he bets, and if he 3-bets I'd just call.
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Old 09-23-2008, 07:14 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Playing 567 at all predraw is horrifying, just muck it. I'd raise 2567 as well, he drew three so it's very unlikely he has a hand that beats you, probably he just has a one card draw that you're a favorite against. I would cap and raise the river if he bets, and if he 3-bets I'd just call.
In a cash game I would muck 567, in an Sng I tend to play a bit wider, especially in the 8 game when most of the field sucks in triple draw

Agree that I should raise the 1st draw.

I did not cap it for the same reason - it is an Sng and there is some value in pot control in marginal situation - and I think it is a marginal situation. Another reason not to cap it is my opinion is that if I am ahead (he has 8x or maybe even 9x) capping it may cause him to break the hand and draw again, which is bad for me


 
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There's playing "a bit wider" and then there's playing one of the worst three-card draws you can have, and from a bad position. There's no way you're making money on this junk hand.

Your last statement has some merit vs. a good player but I think it's FPS vs. a fish like this, in my experience I have never seen a fish break a pat 8 even when it's clearly beat, they just stand pat and call down and hope for the best. Even if you call for deception, there's still no excuse for not raising the river.
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 yea, PF is toooo rough

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Old 09-23-2008, 10:24 AM #7 (permalink)  
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There's playing "a bit wider" and then there's playing one of the worst three-card draws you can have, and from a bad position. There's no way you're making money on this junk hand.
Point taken, I think you are correct
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