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Old 07-16-2007, 03:25 PM     Post subject: 2-7 triple draw questions #1 (permalink)  
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I am currently trying out some poker games I havent played before, because I am a bit bored of my usual NLHE sng play. I recently discovered razz and have great fun with it. Now I am giving 2-7 Triple Draw a shot. I kinda love those lowball games. And they seem to be super fishy. Just played a couple of 2-7 hands. But seeing people calling raises pre-draw and then drawing 3 or even 4 cards gives me kind of an idea, that there is some money to be made at those games. But it is really hard to find any informations on this game. So I would like to ask if someone knows good 2-7 strategy articles.

Other than that I have the following questions:

I am usually starting with 4 to an 8. Sometimes 3 to an 8. Is this too tight/too loose at a fishy table? What should my starting hand requirements be like in loose donkish games?

In Razz it is usually not correct to defend your bring in. How about the big blind in 2-7?

Cant think of more right now.
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Old 07-16-2007, 04:12 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Right here we go:

First of all these games are a gold mine and for the reason you just stated. That leads to 2nd of all:
Don't draw 4 or 5 cards ever (unless your BB is checked to you)
Rarely EVER draw 3. I will sometimes but only if it's cheap and multiway and/or I tried to steal the blinds by raising from the button.
Now. Basically there are lots of decent 3 card starting hands (i.e. you'll be drawing 2), but generally unless you have position you want a 2 in your hand. A decent starting hand has 3 below 7 (237xx is great), but you can play three below an eight if your position is stronger or you can read the game. With these hands you are raising. In fact with most of your starting range you should be raising.

Now if you're only drawing 1 or standing pat early raise/reraise all the way. No need for traps. The game is so fishy because the players want to see all their draws before they make their decisions. Then, and here's the nice part, if they made nothing they'll make it obvious after the last draw and just check/fold (having juiced the pot for 3 betting rounds). Rarely ever do people call river bets with J lows or something, which allows for bluffing opportunities (but only after all the draws.)

Anyway, I could talk 2-7 triple draw all day and still not be concise so here are my starting reqs.
Raise/reraise 5 or 4 cards under an 8
Raise 3 cards under 7 if you have a 2
Only draw 3 in specific situations and when it's cheap. In an ultra fishy game you may want to in position but if you don't improve get out. If you do, foot on the gas.
Try to steal from the button if you have 2x.

Last Tip (most important)
Watch how many your opponents are drawing. If they draw more than you, you have an automatic bet next round. This is why position is so crucial in triple draw: seeing how many your opponent takes, not only allows you to bet correctly most of the time (and I believe limit games are nearly always profitable if you do the right thing most of the time) and it allows you to decide how many you want to draw.

E.g. Its the last draw, you just made a 10, and your opponent called your bet and drew 2. Now you stand. If he called your bet and stood, it may be worth breaking the ten.

Anyway GL on the tables, Negraneaus section in SS2 (an expensive book for a beginner) is a comprehensive starting guide.

P.s. Last night I saw Stars are running NL and PL triple draw. Stay away from these if you want my advice. It is a LIMIT game, and being able to get it all in before the draws makes it a real crap shoot if you ask me.
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:20 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Thanks a lot for your help. I just won a 2-7 tournament (11$ BI 24 players). You helped me a great deal with that.

A situation that arose twice and brought me into some trouble was getting dealt a made nine low predraw and I really had no clue what to do with it. I stood pat on it and was just tried to play it aggressively while crossing my fingers, that opp wont catch. Actually there were two opps on both hands. Guess this was a bad way of playing it.
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 Yeah you want to hammer this capping all the way. Slow right down if someone stands
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:41 PM #6 (permalink)  

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For a really thorough break down of the game read Negreanu's section in Super/System2.
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:14 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I just found the Negreanu chapter online. It is on the Doyles Room website. In case someone didnt know: http://www.doylespokerroom.com/poker...draw_poker.cfm
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