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euphoricism

05-30-2007, 10:23 PM Post subject: 2/3 blind structure.

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Noticed Absolute's 3/6 LHE game is a $2/$3 blind structure. Hence, your button steals are putting in $6 to win $5 whereas in a normal $1/$3 it'd be $6 to win $4. Clearly, we should be stealing more often.

Biggest difference is from the SB - if its folded around to you in the SB, to steal you put in $4 to win $5. As opposed to in a 1/3 structure putting in 5 to win 4.

I'm trying to work out how this changes things, and I cant really get my head around it. Thoughts? Clearly we should steal more often, and complete more SBs than we do at 1/3 or 1/2 blind structures -- but how much more?

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05-30-2007, 10:34 PM

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Should you have a wider 3bet range then as well?

Or does that make it so our coldcall range is higher and our 3bet range is lower?

With more in the pot I'd be inclined to coldcall more than 3bet now. I tended to 3bet 55-99 in the SB to a raise from MP/CO/BTN because calling was a big mistake, now calling doesn't seem like too bad of a play.

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05-31-2007, 08:02 PM

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I’d still 3 bet... why would you 3 bet a 1/2 blind structure or a 1/3 blind structure and not a 2/3? i would think that you could probably squeeze in 1 maybe 2 extra 3 bet hands because this little fact... but I’d have to run the numbers on it, which I’m sorry to say no a days I just don’t have the free time to do.

A bigger pot to start with in general and it makes you turn passive? That is just silly... the bigger the pot the more effort you give to try and win that pot...

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05-31-2007, 08:11 PM

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I think calling a PP from the SB in a 2/3 is bad too...

Villain raises in MP or w/e. $11 in the pot, 4 to call. 2.75:1 is -EV, even if villain calls 14:4 aint all that hot either at 3.5:1

Of course if its limped in MP, we're getting 8:1 from the sb.

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05-31-2007, 09:22 PM

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Harmon talks about a 2/3 chip structure here. I haven't read it. But there may be some good info.

The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?

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05-31-2007, 10:01 PM

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In the two-and-three chip structure, the small blind already has 2/3 of a bet in the pot. If there is no raise before the flop, it’s highly likely that the small blind will complete the bet and see the flop. There are few, if any, situations in which the player in the small blind should fold a hand rather than kick in one more chip. For example, let’s say you are in the small blind in a
$30/$60 hold’em game. A player from middle position calls $30, as does the button. As the player in the small blind, you already have $20 invested, and including the big blind’s $30, the pot already stands at $110. Since calling will only cost you $10, you are getting 11 to 1 odds on your investment. And since there are very few hands that would be worse than an 11 to 1 underdog to win, it’s basically an automatic call no matter what you are holding.
If only you and the big blind remain, remember that there is already $50 in the pot and you have to throw in just one more chip to call. In this case, you are getting 5 to 1 on your money, and you only have to beat one player. Even if you limp in with a marginal hand and the big blind raises you, it’s not the end of the world; you’ve still made the right play.

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05-31-2007, 10:13 PM Post subject: AA, wtf river

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Only way to describe villains are .. HOLY HELL YOURE RETARDED.

River raiser is a 80/20 and im not *super* worried.. but... man

Ok i think I cap this every day, someone yell at me and call me a pussy.

EUPHOLOGI - Posts small blind $2
CLICK75 - Posts big blind $3
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to EUPHOLOGI [Ah Ac]
XXACEHIXX - Calls $3
STRONGCOFFEY - Calls $3
APEXDVC - Folds
MIKE18735 - Calls $3
EUPHOLOGI - Raises $4 to $6
CLICK75 - Calls $3
XXACEHIXX - Calls $3
STRONGCOFFEY - Calls $3
MIKE18735 - Calls $3
*** FLOP *** [2h Qs Ad]
EUPHOLOGI - Bets $3
CLICK75 - Folds
XXACEHIXX - Calls $3
STRONGCOFFEY - Folds
MIKE18735 - Calls $3
*** TURN *** [2h Qs Ad] [4s]
EUPHOLOGI - Bets $6
XXACEHIXX - Calls $6
MIKE18735 - Calls $6
*** RIVER *** [2h Qs Ad 4s] [6c]
EUPHOLOGI - Bets $6
XXACEHIXX - Raises $12 to $12
MIKE18735 - Raises $18 to $18
EUPHOLOGI - Calls $12
XXACEHIXX - Calls $6

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06-01-2007, 08:45 AM

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PUSSY.

If he has 53, then oh well, never mind. You'll get your money back shortly.

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06-01-2007, 01:34 PM

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I don't know man he has 35 so much there

jk, the fuck you thinking?

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06-01-2007, 02:11 PM

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/start sarcasm

Jeez Euph, if you just wouldn't have bloated that pot PF with the raise out of the SB they wouldn't have been able to call the flop with profitable odds to their gutshot. In these spots you should just complete and forego any added equity.

/end sarcasm

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06-01-2007, 03:26 PM

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;] ty. It was the raise, and reraise and back to me that threw me off. But this is an obv cap.

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06-01-2007, 03:41 PM

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How are the 2/4 and 3/6 LHE games at AP? They seem to have a lot more table than UB going.

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06-01-2007, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bigspenda73

I do believe that was directed towards me.......

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06-01-2007, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bigspenda73

How are the 2/4 and 3/6 LHE games at AP? They seem to have a lot more table than UB going.

Theres rarely more than 4 running at any given level.

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06-01-2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NWNewell

Quote:

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I do believe that was directed towards me.......

Lollerz. Nah, not really. Just a poke at what's been going on in our little pooflinging world lately. I try to keep it light. We all get aggravated around here cuz all we do is sling shit all day and a day's worth of great work gets tossed a way so quickly by a little negative variance. I think that's generally why the limit players are a little more sour than the NL players.

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I wasnt aware you had balls sir

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06-01-2007, 10:30 PM

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I LOL'd here. But what we've been talking about: Offsuit, unpaired, big card holdings. AA. You should always raise AA! Don't get it twizted spenda!

The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?

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06-01-2007, 10:34 PM

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Lollerz. Nah, not really....

It's cool.... I can take a joke....... A$$HQLE... mutter, mutter, mutter...

jk

Quote:

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I wasnt aware you had balls sir

toushe.... well played, sir.

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06-02-2007, 10:01 PM

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I have to ask how this hand applies to the 2/3 blind structure? Given that whatever the blinds you pla ythis hand the same... or did you just want to bitch about playing a hand 100% correctly and losing to shit? Isn't that what we call a bad beat thread?

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06-02-2007, 10:52 PM

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It was like 89% correct, and I won, so hah you lose.

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06-02-2007, 10:59 PM

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of course you won the hand ld0

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