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| Chopper |
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ok. so, i ganked this idea from somewhere else....sue me. i want to gauge interest in a contest for a bucket of pride. start with 15BBs at .01/.02 or .02/.04, whichever stars offers as its lowest stakes. if you want to run 2-tables, fine, but it takes double the "bankroll." i may do cake's 4/8c tables instead. grind it up as high as you can by moving up a level when you hit 15 BBs for the next one. (ok, this isnt for teaching proper br management, AND it's just for fun. take that into consideration.) however, it WILL teach you to be aggressive. i'm thinking you get 24 hours from your start time. anyone else think this could be a fun change of pace? |
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece! 
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| in fact, i'm going to do this at cake right after lunch for an hour or so for shits and giggles. i'll post the results and/or any interesting hands that i come across. i'll also do 6max, fyi. | ||
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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| Chopper |
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ok. cake sucks. the jump from 4/8c is to 25/50c. not too realistic for a sprint. i'll try AP. if i get hot, i'll hit the BBJ tables quickly...lol. oh, and no HUD at AP...for some reason it stopped working there. anyone have any advice on this issue? could it be the Creus merge? or however you spell their new network. |
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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| asdpikas |
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Hey, how about if I start higher, does that count? What happens if you go bust? Is it FR or 6max? |
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"could I take out every woman and child in a border town?"
For the right to be governed, waste them without mercy. When you've decided. Meet me at the airport.
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| Chopper |
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| i am on 6max. and, i am not rebuying. | ||
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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| Chopper |
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| i am on msn right now. find me...lol. | ||
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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| Chopper |
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lol...i run so bad at 2/4c. busto on one and was up 20 bb's, but now negative on the other. i have 80 and 90 vpip bluffers all over the place.....not used to that anymore. 
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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| asdpikas |
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i'm loggin off for the day, but will try that tomorrow I may start at .5/1 though, and see if i can go up |
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"could I take out every woman and child in a border town?"
For the right to be governed, waste them without mercy. When you've decided. Meet me at the airport.
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| Chopper |
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such a shame. this is actually quite hard at the lowest stakes. flopmonkey, i dont know how you are putting up with this crap...lol. |
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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I grinded up from $10 in 0.15/0.30 to $120 does that count |
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| KoRnholio |
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| I'm going to try this later tonight when I am bored. Probably on stars since it has more steps through the micro levels. | ||
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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| Chopper |
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i will tell you this..... it was hard, for me. i maybe was going at it a bit hard, not playing MY game. i think i was pressing to see how fast i could go and just not respecting them down low. (haha, like i play high) but, when i settled down and just tried to pwn them, i was ok. but, obv, was delivered some trashy beats with crazy cards in raised pots. oh well. back at this again tonight or tomorrow. its kind of fun....for the short term. |
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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| KoRnholio |
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| I just sat with my 60 cents at .02/.04... I have a feeling this wont last long, lol. Normally in full ring LHE I sit with 50BBs... | ||
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| Chopper |
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| just let them give the pots to you. play tight with your aggression. play your super premiums fast, and no matter the action, be fairly sticky in pots you are playing. you will be surprised. | ||
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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| KoRnholio |
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One hour session and I am up to 78 cents. Need $1.50 to be rolled for the 0.05/0.10 stars game  I almost kicked myself for starting with so few BBs... I hit a set in a 6 way pot and nearly ran it down to the felt, as I started the hand with like 6BB. |
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| flopmonkey |
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here is what i did, and what i will continue with today. (after that i think i'll be sick of this...lol) i am playing stars 6max, for volume. i am finding 80/60's and 50/10's like you wouldnt believe, especially late last night (US hours). i started with 15 bb's. and, i know the "challenge" is to not rebuy. but, i dont like letting myself go under 10 bb's, in case i hit a nice hand that receives action from all these guys. but, i keep track of rebuys, and am not moving up until i hit .90 of profit at 2/4c. if i have to rebuy 4 times, thats' all the more i need to recover before i move up. and, so on and so on for each additional level. flopmonkey, this may pertain more to you than some of us regs that are goofing with this. not to sound arrogant, but i kind of got excited about this to provide you with any help i could because i know 2/4c doesnt respect this money much more than play money. - you have to let them spew into you. they will. - i limp a TON if someone is already in a pot. i mean, i limp <TT (hell, and call a raise with those, fwiw), i limp anything else suited AND 1-gapped. and, i play "fit or fold" on the flop. no bluffing. no donking w/o a strong hand or plenty of outs. but, more often i am c/r'ing oop or just waiting for the turn since i often cant force mistakes on the flop. - i raise/cap any super premiums. and, only play those on strong flops for the hand. i have yet to slowplay anything i raised pf. - i am valuebetting VERY thin. i bet Qhi on a Khi, two flush board for example. - i am very sticky in pots. once in, i aint leaving w/o overwhelming evidence. even that said, i folded trip T's (i had a 6 kicker) only to find worse trips were capping against a 3 flush board. turned out to be trips v 2pr...wtf? i was calling 2 cold on multiple streets. i refused to do it on the turn because the trips were 3betting and capping and my kicker was pathetic. but, i folded the best hand........and about threw my soda across the room....lol. - i am folding the best hand to be sure quite often. but, the pots i am dragging are gargantuan for a 6max table. nutshell: once i got into letting them spew into me and only going crazy with the best hands i held, i made it to 10/20c in about an hour. caveat: i also decided that when ONE table hit 15 BBs for the next level, i moved THAT table up and sat on the other until i built it up. so, i had two tables open, and they were on different levels. but, whatevs. i hope something in my spew/ramble helps. |
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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| flopmonkey |
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Im glad that you decided to try this experiment. I knew there was a difference in the lowest stakes, but didnt realize there was that much of one. I guess your right about TAG not being the best system of play in these lowest stakes. Because they dont really care too much about your aggression. Im gonna try your "let them spew" system for a while and lay off the TAG . |
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no no no! (sorry, caught up in holiday ho ho ho theme) dont lay off the TAG. just think about spots you could get more out of an aggressive/bluffy villain by being more passive. and, stay aggressive as hell against the passive stations.....just dont try and blow them out of pots. |
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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| up to 10/20c. just play tight and sticky. | ||
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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| KoRnholio |
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| Drunken maniac image (which is only semi correct!) nets me a win, up to $1.25 and nearly ready for .05/.10 | ||
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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| Chopper |
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i used to play NL once a week and shoot for a goal of 80% vpip. i played at lower stakes, so it sucked for LAGgy/retard play because i had zero FE...even pf. but, it did teach me really fast how to get premiums paid AND how to notice the table adjusting to you. because at some point, even the biggest morons adjust to a giant fool. |
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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| KoRnholio |
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Finished my 0.05/.10 session with $2.72. was up to $3.30 or so, but then lost with 2 pair against a set. Sat longer than I needed to as there was a laggy donator on my left which enabled me to check-raise the field a couple times with solid hands. There is quite a difference between this level and 0.02/.04 I find. Bigger than the step from playmoney to .02/.04 I'd say. No competant players, but they will fold on the river after missing their draws/ace chases when it is painfully obvious they are beat. Though top pair still sticks to their hands like glue, even when the turn and river are capped, lol. |
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i find that IF you can identify, and note, a "draw chaser," you can punish him with very marginal hands. that draw doesnt come in most of the time, and he will fold most rivers if he doesnt pick up a pair along the way. easy money. i note them as either "chaser" or "rvr folder." it lets me know to blast them with that last bet when i am in doubt. i also think you will notice an equal change in the jump to 10/20c. the players just dont take pure crap quite so far. but, they are still too loose preflop, cooler themselves too often as a result, and try funky "moves" to bluff you off a hand when you obviously represent a hand you would not be folding. |
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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I noticed the change too since moving up to .5/.10...seems like a much more level playing field. They seem to play on or above my skill level, so its a good challenge. Ive been breaking even for the most part. (had a bad losing streak today) I notice there is a big gap in skill level of the players, there is good players, and losing players. I try not to get involved in a hand against a player that seems to be alot better than me. And Ive started taking notes alot more about calling stations, maniacs etc. its really hard playing more than one table while trying to get reads on people. especially since people come and go so often. |
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you'll get used to it. and, the best part is that the notes follow the player. so, once you start to run into them again, you are light years ahead of the game/table. i have been playing a ton at a site that doesnt allow HUDs/PokerTracker. it was an adjustment at first. but, once i started logging the notes and seeing them again, i used those previous notes against them. and, i started to realize that notetaking is FAR more important than any "stat read." stats just get you a general idea, but a true player read tends to last long after his stats have changed. |
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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| dranger7070 |
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The only time I've ever played limit HE is live, but I might give this a shot just for kicks. Sounds pretty interesting. I'm playing on PS so the levels aren't quite so steep, see if I can't learn a few things 
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| dranger7070 |
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Update: I started with 15bb on 2/4c. Now I'm moving up to 5/10c. (Got above $1.50) I'll keep posting til either I bust or get up to like $5 or something and quit :P Good challenge BTW. |
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| dranger7070 |
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Edit: I was only 1 tabling so I decided to break up my money into 2 tables of .60 a piece. Once I get one or both of these up to 1.50 I will move up to 5/10c. |
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| KoRnholio |
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Retardz for teh winz! PokerStars Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (10 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K  , K UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 3 folds, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls Flop: (11 SB) K  , 4 , Q (5 players)SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+2 calls, Hero raises, SB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls Turn: (10.5 BB) 3 (5 players)SB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, SB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls River: (18.5 BB) 7 (4 players)SB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, UTG calls, 1 fold Total pot: $4.70 (23.5 BB) | Rake: $0.20 Results in white below: UTG mucked 8 , A (high card, Ace).Hero had K , K (three of a kind, Kings).Outcome: Hero won $4.50 |
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| KoRnholio |
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Had the same tard spew some more to me... and then another guy take the most retarded line ever with bottom pair bad kicker. He bet-called the flop, check-called the turn, donked the river when the flush hit and any conceivable hand I could have now beats him or I fold when behind. Up to $10.87 and ready to play some .25/.50 tomorrow. |
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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| KoRnholio |
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Played some .25/.50, met a spewtard who gave me much dinero... then lost a huge multiway 28BB pot with 77 on a 76539 board against A4. Sitting at $9.40 now. |
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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| Chopper |
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| that KK hand has to be a Hall of Fame collection of horrible players. i havent had the pleasure of seeing this at 2/4c before. all that cold calling, and then folding, had me just dumbfounded. | ||
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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| KoRnholio |
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Sat with $7 or so at .25/.50, lost two big pots (QQ vs KK, TT vs A2 on a 22xxx board). Then stepped down to .10/.20... Choo-choo... All aboard the train to Value Town! I hit a ridiculous rush of cards and people started calling me down with next to nothing, or raising hard with the 2nd best hand. Won about 50BB in 20 minutes. It was the kind of night where you raise AKs, get a million callers, flop comes with 2 broadways that miss you, but you hit your gutshot on the turn. Too bad my 2nd last hand of the night didn't end with that: PokerStars Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com Preflop: Hero is UTG with A , KHero raises, 2 folds, MP2 (poster) calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, 1 fold Flop: (11 SB) Q , 6, J (5 players)SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, 1 fold Turn: (7 BB) 10 (3 players)Hero checks, MP3 bets, CO calls, Hero raises, MP3 calls, CO calls River: (13 BB) J (3 players)Hero bets, MP3 calls, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, CO caps, Hero calls Total pot: $4.30 (21.5 BB) | Rake: $0.20 Results: Hero mucked A , K (straight, Ace high).CO had J , J (four of a kind, Jacks).Outcome: CO won $4.10 Still ended the session with about $15 though
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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Are u sure u guys aren't playing 2/4????? All villains had been color-coded FISH 2/4 Limit Holdem 6 players Converted at weaktight.com Stacks: UTG ($190.00) UTG+1 ($111.00) CO ($34.50) Hero (BTN) ($172.50) SB ($55.00) BB ($407.00) Pre-flop: (1.5 SB, 6 players) Hero is BTN   1 fold, UTG+1 raises, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, CO calls Flop:    (13.0 SB, 4 players)SB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets, Hero raises, SB calls, UTG+1 calls, CO 3-bets, Hero 4-bets, SB calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls Turn:  (14.5 BB, 4 players)SB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets, Hero raises, SB calls, UTG+1 calls, CO 3-bets, Hero 4-bets, SB calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls River:  (30.5 BB, 4 players)SB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets, Hero raises, SB folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls allin Final Pot: 35.6 BB UTG+1 shows:   CO shows:   Hero shows: Hero wins 34.9 BB ( won +25.4 BB ) UTG+1 lost 9.5 BB CO lost 8.6 BB SB lost 7.5 BB |
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at what point does CO realize he's stupid? and, why is KQ thinking he can win after this violence? (just some things i will NEVER understand...but love) but, we also know that AA always holds up in limit, right? i havent ever seen it cracked...{sarcasm} i need to get back on this little challenge. i am flat lined at 10/20 for the moment, and korn is going to pass me up...lol. |
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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I am glad I started this challenge. It gives me something to do when bored and not focused enough to play solid in my regular games, often late at night. It's like with my reg games, I don't like putting in a short session, especially if I am down after just a short time. But with my challenge bankroll I am being more vigilant
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| Chopper |
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i have learned that everything you do in poker, if you do it 100%, will teach you something about your game. something you will take with you to the "next level." and, yeah, i do this late night or early day. times i dont want to focus on playing my normal level, but just feel like donking around. donking isnt a great term because i am still trying to crush these guys. im not just splashing chips. but, i have noticed i am a bit more willing to change my lines around a bit and see what may work up higher...getting creative ftw! |
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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| KoRnholio |
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Got my bankroll crushed at .25/.50 again. Went back to 0.10/0.20. $3.97 left in my roll
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| Chopper |
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| lol. i am still stuck at 10/20c for the time being. it'll be fun when we get these to 1/2+, though. and, we are literally playing on $.60 per table...lol. | ||
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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| MrPocketSevens |
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This is a very good idea ... similar to the other post about Shortstack NL  I'm willing to try it out. Starting on $0,05/$,10 which is thw lowest limit on Betsson ... $1,5 Starting Bankroll. Good Luck me  PS: I'm going to try to be honest and only rebuy more chips when I get down to 0. If you're always rebuying I don't think that's fair. |
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"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." (George Bush).
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| MrPocketSevens |
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 One drunken fish coming right out I had already $1,86 and I then i had KK and lost a $3 MW Pot with 5 or 6 players. The flop wasn't bad but the turn was awfull and put a possible straigth on the board. The guy made the 2nut straight bet the turn and checked the river has everybody else did ... I was hoping to move up to $0,15/$0,30 right away :P Down to $1,26 ... Let's try a little bit Heads-Up
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1st Try Busto!! Playing HU Lost 2 Big Pots and maybe made to much fancy moves!! 2nd try: $1,5 Starting Bankroll PS: Do I have to make it to $6 to move up know? Because I think it should count just as new try ... |
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lol....do what you want. i was just countering your "buying in repeatedly isnt fair" argument. i gave you the method i am using to keep it at the original $1.50 per table i play. do what you want. we'll see how steadfast you are in your own br management now... (seriously, its a buck-fitty. who cares? buy in again and have another go. no one will hold it against you. after all, how hard would it be to take another shot if your first attempt was your last 1.50? you would raid the piggy bank and redeposit.) it doesnt matter how many times you try. this is just for fun. |
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
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| MrPocketSevens |
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I know it's just for fun man ... chill out And I'm really having fun getting back to the basics ... donkeys all over at this tables I think it's also a good way to encourage those who win liker $5 or $10 in freerolls to start building a bankroll ... this is how i started Progess: $3,49 after playing some HU hands
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i'm telling you, someone will get to 2/4 this way....on the original 1.50. and, what a joy to be playing that high, and when you go busto, you just reload 1.50 and start over. that link to the NL thread doing similar things is fun, too. i like to do this over at FTP on there "capped" tables with a short stack. good fun! |
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| KoRnholio |
05-26-2012, 03:08 PM Australia Legalized Online Poker coming up in next 6 to 12 Months
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| According to an email sent out by Mark Bryan, a gaming analyst at Merrill Lynch, the Australian government plans to legalize online poker sometime in the next six to 12 months. This move will coincide ... | |
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