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elipsesjeff
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06-30-2005, 11:09 PM
Post subject: 15/30
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I've already started it but here are my 5/10 6 max numbers. Either two or three tabling.
9812 Hands
23.41 VPIP
FSB to Steal 75.31
FBB to Steal 53.87
Att to Steal 30.17
WSD 38.28
W$SD 51.32
PFR 14.96
2.33 BB/100
Aggression:
F: 2.49
T: 2.26
R: 2.02
Overall: 2.32
True Win Rate: 4.74 BB/hour.
Rake: $1851. Rakeback is 25% so $460. Add another $9/hour for this.
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euphoricism
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5/10 6max, why is this titled "15/30" ? :]
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elipsesjeff
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because i'm moving up
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
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That makes sense :]
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koolmoe
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We're in the same ballpark. You are slightly looser and more aggressive than me, but about the same winrate (2.28 for me).
I've moved up to 10/20 6max for the moment. Tough sledding so far (0.66BB/100 through 5K hands).
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Nehmer
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Originally Posted by koolmoe
We're in the same ballpark. You are slightly looser and more aggressive than me, but about the same winrate (2.28 for me).
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Dang, I must be a LAgg now that I moved up to 6-max. I was borderline rock at full ring, but my 6-max VPIP and PFR are both significantly higher than Jeffs which apparently are higher than yours. Kinda wierd that my style would change so much just by switching to a different number of players at the table.
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koolmoe
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Originally Posted by Nehmer
Dang, I must be a LAgg now that I moved up to 6-max. I was borderline rock at full ring, but my 6-max VPIP and PFR are both significantly higher than Jeffs which apparently are higher than yours. Kinda wierd that my style would change so much just by switching to a different number of players at the table.
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There are lots of styles that work, but rakeback dictates that tighter play is preferrable in 6-max. There is a wide range of hands that are either slightly +EV or slightly -EV given the situation. I'd rather not play those hands and avoid contributing to the rake since I make more in rakeback on hands I don't contribute to.
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ArcticKnight
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Originally Posted by Nehmer
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Originally Posted by koolmoe
We're in the same ballpark. You are slightly looser and more aggressive than me, but about the same winrate (2.28 for me).
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Dang, I must be a LAgg now that I moved up to 6-max. I was borderline rock at full ring, but my 6-max VPIP and PFR are both significantly higher than Jeffs which apparently are higher than yours. Kinda wierd that my style would change so much just by switching to a different number of players at the table.
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Hi folks
One thing to keep in mind about 6 max, is that IMO being a Lagg does not work in the long term.
One of the key principles of being able to be agressive and still be +EV is that you are only playing premium hands.
I see players loosen up at 6max to 22-30% and still try to play the hands just as aggressively as they did at 8% to 11% 10handed. When you think about it, this can't work. It's an incompatable way to approach the game. You are playing a broader range of hands, so your aggression level needs to come down or you will be spewing chips.
IMO the best players in 6 max are semi-loose (let's say 23 to 29%) and with agression levels that are mid-range between agressive and passive.
So, there is nothing too wrong with being SLAP (semi-loose agressive passive), but being a LAGG is going to be dificult to pull off long-term.
Now....back to golfing......
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Nehmer
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Originally Posted by Nehmer
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Originally Posted by koolmoe
We're in the same ballpark. You are slightly looser and more aggressive than me, but about the same winrate (2.28 for me).
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Dang, I must be a LAgg now that I moved up to 6-max. I was borderline rock at full ring, but my 6-max VPIP and PFR are both significantly higher than Jeffs which apparently are higher than yours. Kinda wierd that my style would change so much just by switching to a different number of players at the table.
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Hi folks
One thing to keep in mind about 6 max, is that IMO being a Lagg does not work in the long term.
One of the key principles of being able to be agressive and still be +EV is that you are only playing premium hands.
I see players loosen up at 6max to 22-30% and still try to play the hands just as aggressively as they did at 8% to 11% 10handed. When you think about it, this can't work. It's an incompatable way to approach the game. You are playing a broader range of hands, so your aggression level needs to come down or you will be spewing chips.
IMO the best players in 6 max are semi-loose (let's say 23 to 29%) and with agression levels that are mid-range between agressive and passive.
So, there is nothing too wrong with being SLAP (semi-loose agressive passive), but being a LAGG is going to be dificult to pull off long-term.
Now....back to golfing......
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Well, thanks for the advice. Right now being a LAgg is resulting in the best poker and win rate I have ever sustained for this many hands, so I'm not changing anything, but when variance does inevitably kick in(I know I can't win 8BB/100 forever), I'll probably take the advice and tighten up a bit
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