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Old 11-12-2007, 02:27 AM     Post subject: 10PL - another line check #1 (permalink)  
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 This is almost always a big pair who isn't folding. Goot? (note, it's a shorty)

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UTG: $4.20
Hero: $12
CO: $4
Button: $5.10
SB: $9.90
BB: $4.10

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 7 J T Q
UTG raises to $0.45, Hero calls, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 2 4 T ($1.85, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $1.85, Hero raises to $3.7,
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Old 11-12-2007, 02:42 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 what's your equity against a big pair?
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:06 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 If he doesn't have a J or a Q then ~40%

If he has one of my cards ~35%

Your av cracks me up. Was it not animated at first? Because I remember seeing it without it moving.
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:08 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 With position I just call to take one off before I go to war. Most villains (especially at this level) just won't let go of AAxx or KKxx when they get popped on a totally dry board like that. And if he is bluffing missed high cards, he will be checking the turn to you anyways.
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Old 11-12-2007, 05:23 AM #5 (permalink)  
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If he doesn't have a J or a Q then ~40%

If he has one of my cards ~35%

Your av cracks me up. Was it not animated at first? Because I remember seeing it without it moving.
yea, I guess you're nearly pot-stuck if you'll have 40% so you might as well get it in.

As for my Av, it wasn't animated at first, then a balla came along and hooked me up.
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Old 11-12-2007, 11:58 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 I dont think folding is a bad move


 
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Old 11-12-2007, 11:23 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I dont think folding is a bad move
He has $1.90 left on the flop, so if I check and he bets I'm calling getting 4:1 to catch/he may bluff off the rest with AK high? Meh.

If I raise, I'm risking $4.20 to win $5.60 outright, which is 43%, damn. Guess folding isn't bad.

At a higher stake where this is sometimes missed overs (especially since we have 2) do you like better? I guess the call/call line doesn't look as bad, although it's pretty weak. I guess it could help the image too.
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:47 AM #8 (permalink)  
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I dont think folding is a bad move
He has $1.90 left on the flop, so if I check and he bets I'm calling getting 4:1 to catch/he may bluff off the rest with AK high? Meh.

If I raise, I'm risking $4.20 to win $5.60 outright, which is 43%, damn. Guess folding isn't bad.

At a higher stake where this is sometimes missed overs (especially since we have 2) do you like better? I guess the call/call line doesn't look as bad, although it's pretty weak. I guess it could help the image too.
In higher buy ins, when you can actually get people off AA with a reraise this move may be worth it.

I did not run it in any calculator but your 43% seems a bit high


 
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:49 AM #9 (permalink)  
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 I ran the numbers, you haev about 40% vs KKxx


 
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Old 11-13-2007, 10:57 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 I need 43% to push with no fold equity
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In higher buy ins, when you can actually get people off AA with a reraise this move may be worth it.

I did not run it in any calculator but your 43% seems a bit high
Very few people would lay down AAxx to a raise on a T42 rainbow flop unless the it was against a super nit. Most of the time calling a preflop raise and then raising that flop means a hand like TJQK or A35x...
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