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Strung

04-26-2005, 03:44 AM Post subject: 10K hand checkup

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**Ugh my formatting got messed up, first numbers are 10K, second are 5K sorry for the ugly formatting

OK, so I posted some stats at about 5K and realized I was playing too tight and not aggressive enough. I was playing about break-even poker and since I have adjusted my game. I still have a ways to go but I would like some comments. I was up up about $70 at 10K but I sh!t you not, I lost $50 in the last 100 hands to some ugly beats including losing KK 3 times in a row. But I'm still plus about $20.

(10K) (5K)
VP$IP = 13.03 11.03
Folded BB to steal = 94.74 no idea
Att. to steal blinds = 14.29% no idea
Won$WSF = 25.03% no idea
Went to SD = 26.48% no idea
Won$ at SD = 55.38% no idea
PF Raise = 5.61% 5.12%

Aggression
(10K) (5K)
Flop = 2.05 1.65
Turn = 2.03 1.45
River = 1.53 1.40

Overall = 1.88 1.5

I guess i still need help with what hands to raise when as I am not raising enough. VP$IP is going up but I still need to be playing a few more hands I think. I am following the starting hand requirements in SSH pretty riggidly for TIGHT games. I know party games aren't really tight but the # of players seeing the flop seems to fit those numbers.

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Fnord

04-26-2005, 04:02 AM

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What stakes is this?

Are you stealing and defending enough? It's hard to tell if your steal/defend numbers are so passive because you're not playing enough hands in thse spots or stealing isn't enough of an issue in your games to matter.

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Strung

04-26-2005, 04:08 AM

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This is only Party .5/1

Fnord

04-26-2005, 04:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Strung

This is only Party .5/1

11% VP$IP at 5k, 13% VP$IP at 10k, so you're running 15% VP$IP for your last 5k hands? That's a more resonable value.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
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whileone

04-26-2005, 04:10 AM

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(10K) (5K)
VP$IP = 13.03 11.03
Folded BB to steal = 94.74 no idea
Att. to steal blinds = 14.29% no idea
Won$WSF = 25.03% no idea
Went to SD = 26.48% no idea
Won$ at SD = 55.38% no idea
PF Raise = 5.61% 5.12%

let's see. vp$ip looks a little low.
pfr is too low... if you're following ssh, try raising all of the big offsuit cards. you want to limit the field anyway. that should get you around 8% pfr. then, look for reasons to raise. i think you want went to SD to be a bit higher...

but the key feature, are you winning? you could probably raise a bit more, and call a few more hands down... or reraise instead of fold a bit more often. but it looks ok.

people claim 18% pre flop is "optimal" and 35% went to showdown is "optimal". you're probably playing a little bit too weak tight, cause you're pretty far away from those numbers. but if your game is working for you, don't make any huge changes, bet and raise more for your next few thousand hands, see how that goes.

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Fnord

04-26-2005, 04:14 AM

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Here are my number for my last few hands of 3/6....

15.92% VP$IP (would probably play a couple % more in a .5/1 game)
17.95% VP$IP (low because of the 1/3 structure and pre-flop aggression in this game)
10.63% PFR (probably a couple % lower in a .5/1 game because of few steal and isolation raises.)
29.09% WTSD (Not sure how .5/1 would effect this, on the one hand more big mulit-pots. However, I tend to run lower here these days because I trust my mad hand reading skillz)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y

Strung

04-26-2005, 04:29 AM

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Hmmm, I did not know a 35% was optimal for showdown. Like Fnord said, my VP$IP for the last 5K hands has been around 15%. I still think I need to throw a few more hands into what I play. Maybe more of the big offsuit starting in MP instead of just late. What about suited one gappers?

As far as raising goes, when you say to raise the big offsuit cards, are you talkinglate position? There is no way in hell i would raise KTo from early or mid position... that's more of a mid to late limp. Maybe i should be raising these against 1 or 2 limpers?

Fnord

04-26-2005, 04:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Strung

15% VP$IP should be fine. Add more hands as you improve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y

ArcticKnight

04-26-2005, 05:41 AM

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Just curious folks. For VP$IP does everyone go to Position stats and filter to ensure a full table? Or do some of your stats incude games with 9, 8 or even 7 players. If so, this will elevate your VP$IP.

I know this is not the forum for poker tracker questions, but is there a way in the "general info" tab (on the details section), to filter to ensure full games. I play 6 handed, but in "details" I want to filter occasionally to see my stats when the table is full, but I can't seem to do that.

Because I can't, my VP$IP in the general info "details" section is 4% higher than it it is when under the "Position stats" and I use a "hands between 6 and 6 players" filter. 4% is significant.....I'm 31% VP$IP in "details" and 27% when filtered for 6/6.

In fact, if any of us are looking at blind steals, aggression and other stats, they may be skewed somewhat depending on how much we play with less than a full table.

Questions...

1. Is there away to filter for full tables under "general"?

2. Do you folks compare the VP$IP in the details section with that under full table parameters in the position stats section?

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