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10-21-2005, 07:15 PM
Post subject: 10K checkup?
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Absolute newb at limit, so these are indeed my first ever 10k hands at limit hold'em.
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euphoricism
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Looks really quite good. I can only find some small things to nitpick about...
Your VP$IP from SB is a little high, almost half the time?
You shouldn't really be playing QJo that much. Youre playing it 65% of the time and only winning with it 13%... Its a hand that looks better than it is.
You might be overplaying 44. Set it or forget it. You should be playing it from LP only with a lot of limpers (unless you have an awesome table and you can limp it from EP knowing itll get limped behind you as well, but this is risky.) 75% VPIP with it is probably a bit high.
Rest looks goot. Youre well on your way. 4bb/100 over 10k is beautiful -- enjoy it while it lasts ;]
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I HAVE tried to get VPIP from SB down, I know it's a problem...i'll try to plug the leak.
I've been getting 44 a lot lately, and playing it too much..i'll cut it with lower pocket pairs as I've learned I should take it easy.
QJo...well...mostly,lately, I was getting caught with it in MP folded to me and would chose to raise instead of fold. I've plugged that hopefully.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Hate
QJo...well...mostly,lately, I was getting caught with it in MP folded to me and would chose to raise instead of fold. I've plugged that hopefully.
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QJo is an opener for me from the HJ+
For what it's worth, I think most people's biggest leaks have little to do with starting hands.
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euphoricism
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Woa woa, you CCPF 44 three times..! Generally speaking thats a warning flag. Unless you have a bunch of cold callers in already, you can't cold call this.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
Woa woa, you CCPF 44 three times..! Generally speaking thats a warning flag. Unless you have a bunch of cold callers in already, you can't cold call this.
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...it's the Party .5/1 game...
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Hate
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LOTS of cold callers there, plus usually when I cold call I already had some limpers from who I expected a call.
But I'm not cold calling anymore anyway!
Fnord, the reason I see always opening QJo from MP as a leak is that I get to the flop UI too many times to make a profit, and have opponents TOO STUPID to...again...make a profit.
Obviously...this pertains to my level (0.5/1) and competitors... at what you're playing it's probably goot.
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Fnord
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But I'm not cold calling anymore anyway!
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Your loss.
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Was cold calling not -EV or am I missing something? If so, what?(pre-empting a possible "yes" post  )
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Fnord
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Was cold calling not -EV or am I missing something? If so, what?(pre-empting a possible "yes" post ) |
There are spots where it's clearly correct. Just lots of people do stupid shit like cold call legit raises with AJo, KJo or worse....as the second non-forced bet in the pot...
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jmontis
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Originally Posted by Fnord
For what it's worth, I think most people's biggest leaks have little to do with starting hands.
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I totally agree
learning how to maximize profit in marginal situations can turn a 2bb/100 winner to a 3-4+bb/100 winner
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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Fnord
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I think comments like "QJo/AKo/etc. is my biggest leak" is an artifact of PokerTracker and it's default views. By that logic AKo has been a big leak for me over my last few thousand hands. However, if you look back further, the number comes back into line.
I'm not saying think kind of thinking is always without merit nor that isn't not a bad idea to look back at those hands to see if you're playing it too often in bad spots or (for example) calling the river too much with AKo unimproved. However, people do tend to jump on these and not dig in deep enough.
I really should write up a post on how people butcher PokerTracker results and end up being just another weak/tight nit.
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jmontis
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I haven't been grinding limit much lately, but AKo was 4th biggest winner over 8k hands.
I just raise it hard preflop and on the flop, and generally use reads to determine where I'm at on the turn/river.
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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pokerfanatic
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Has someone told you to turn off you PF Argo Factor?
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“Dream as if you’ll live forever. Live as if you’ll die today.” ~ James Dean ~
"Poker is a lot like sex, peoples perceived ability usually blinds the truth" ~ me ~
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euphoricism
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
Woa woa, you CCPF 44 three times..! Generally speaking thats a warning flag. Unless you have a bunch of cold callers in already, you can't cold call this.
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...it's the Party .5/1 game... |
Thats a good point.
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Hate
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Originally Posted by pokerfanatic
Has someone told you to turn off you PF Argo Factor?
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No. Why? It's turned on 
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