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Parasurama
Old 01-03-2009, 04:41 AM     Post subject: 10 PLO two hands for review #1 (permalink)  
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Should I be betting this turn?

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Hero (UTG) ($14.80)
MP ($9.65)
Button ($10.50)
SB ($10.40)
BB ($25.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, K, K, 8
Hero raises to $0.40, MP calls $0.40, 1 fold, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.30) J, 6, 2 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.75, MP calls $0.75, SB calls $0.75

Turn: ($3.55) 10 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.75, 1 fold, SB calls $1.75

River: ($7.05) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $7.05 | Rake: $0.70

Is my draw strong enough here to jam?

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MP ($2)
Hero (CO) ($9.75)
Button ($5.50)
SB ($11.80)
BB ($0.25)
UTG ($17)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, 6, 5, 4
UTG calls $0.10, MP checks, Hero calls $0.10, Button calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, BB raises to $0.20, UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, Button calls $0.10, SB calls $0.10

Flop: ($1.20) 3, 6, 10 (6 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.05 (All-In), 1 fold, MP raises to $1.35, Hero raises to $5.30, Button calls $5.30 (All-In), 1 fold, MP calls $0.45 (All-In)

Total pot: $13.65 | Rake: $1.35
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Old 01-03-2009, 06:29 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand #1

pot flop, get in if raised
pot turn
pot river he rarely have flush

hand 2
fold preflop this is a garbage hand multiway, it would be ok with an A high FD but you get it in bad too much with only a K high vs. A high fd', considering you will often be up against a set.

Another reason PF is bad is the reason we jam big draws is people fold bottom sets (sometimes), 2p, and other stuff that have equity vs. us... but it only works vs. fewer players, multiway you are usually getting it in here way behind. often with good combo you are behind but you fold ppl out in 3way pots... 5 way someone has a set here pretty mcuh always
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Old 01-03-2009, 06:40 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Hand #1

pot flop, get in if raised
pot turn
pot river he rarely have flush

hand 2
fold preflop this is a garbage hand multiway, it would be ok with an A high FD but you get it in bad too much with only a K high vs. A high fd', considering you will often be up against a set.

Another reason PF is bad is the reason we jam big draws is people fold bottom sets (sometimes), 2p, and other stuff that have equity vs. us... but it only works vs. fewer players, multiway you are usually getting it in here way behind. often with good combo you are behind but you fold ppl out in 3way pots... 5 way someone has a set here pretty mcuh always
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Old 01-03-2009, 06:51 AM #4 (permalink)  
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so we're bluffing the river in hand 1 mix? I have no problem with that
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Old 01-03-2009, 08:08 AM #5 (permalink)  
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yes we will lose a showdown and he can only call maybe 20% of the time
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Old 01-03-2009, 08:28 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Hand #1

pot flop, get in if raised
pot turn
pot river he rarely have flush
You're right, he didn't have a flush, why can't he have a straight though? I guess betting is best anyway though. Do you think he'll fold two pair here? He'd have probably raised a set at some point right?

Hand 2, I figured it was a fold pre, but this is definitely ok with the nfd post flop? That was going to be my follow up question.

Just a general theory question, should I almost always be betting pot, if I want to bet at all, at the micros? What are the specific situations where I shouldn't?
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regarding hand 1, he can have a straight but most players will talk themselves out of calling when a flush is possible to a full pot river bet and they don't have it. 2p will def fold, usually a 2p hand that never raised is BEGGING for a showdown.
Don't do this vs. a station, obviously...I really don't know how stationy 10PLO is, so adjust as needed if people start calling really wide

Hand 2 yes with nutdraw play is great
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