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bigspenda73
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12-23-2007, 03:02 AM
Post subject: $100PLO Bluff Bet-size
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I have $125 and villain covers. He's stacked me once with top-set when I had top 2 and an overpair on a drawy-board. My image, for once, is solid. I haven't even value-bet thinly yet. Villain (BB) is tight-passive and I'm sure a winner because being nitty pays in this game.
There are actually many questions really but the river bet size is what I'm wondering, but as always, any comments appreciated.
5 handed
Hero UTG:    
Hero raises to $3, BTN calls, SB calls, BB calls
Flop (pot: $12): :Td:  
SB checks, BB bets $12, Hero calls (meh right), BTN folds, SB folds
Turn (pot: $36): 
BB bets $36, Hero calls (meh meh right)
River (pot: $108): 
BB checks, Hero....
Those who say check-back I want to know what you think he shows us.
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swiggidy
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The stacks pretty much suck. I would expect to see 9J, maybe even 9JQ.
With more behind I would like a 1/2PSB, especially if that's what you would bet for value (if it's been shown down). I would probably make it $75 without a great reason. With confidence in this nitty read I make it $100 and expect him to snap fold.
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bigspenda73
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The more I think about it the turn is either a shove or fold, most-likely a fold.
Swiggs I usually pot the rivers for value so I guess I would just shove here normally with TT.
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salsa4ever
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the don't know that. I would certainl fold the turn here. with 2 diamonds I am reluctant to Bluff at the pot. I think villain has 9J a lot here, and will often call u cos of stack sizes and te possile flush draw.
he could also have flush draw in which case ur hand is good. no real need to turn into a Bluff.
if he sneakil checked a full house checking also saves u $$.
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Would you bone your cousins? Salsa would.
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well courtie, since we're both clear, would you accept an invitation for some unprotected sex?
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bigspenda73
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BUT I COULD GET HIM TO FOLD A SPLIT OR J9 RIGHT?
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swiggidy
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
Swiggs I usually pot the rivers for value so I guess I would just shove here normally with TT.
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This can't be good against a nitty player, unless we're not merging bluffing and value lines at all.
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bigspenda73
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Originally Posted by swiggidy
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
Swiggs I usually pot the rivers for value so I guess I would just shove here normally with TT.
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This can't be good against a nitty player, unless we're not merging bluffing and value lines at all. |
oh i can merge with the best of them baby
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salsa4ever
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
BUT I COULD GET HIM TO FOLD A SPLIT OR J9 RIGHT?
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split perhaps.
that's really the only hand were you'd gain really. can't see him fold J9
results?
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Originally Posted by bigred
Would you bone your cousins? Salsa would.
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Originally Posted by salsa4ever
well courtie, since we're both clear, would you accept an invitation for some unprotected sex?
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bigspenda73
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
BUT I COULD GET HIM TO FOLD A SPLIT OR J9 RIGHT?
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split perhaps.
that's really the only hand were you'd gain really. can't see him fold J9
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I timebanked, moved the slider back and forth like 50 times, convinced myself he couldn't fold J9 cuz I couldn't rep a boat then checked and he showed J9 like I knew he would.
He then said "whew" in chat....lol oh well.
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swiggidy
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
He then said "whew" in chat....lol oh well.
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That could easily mean "thank you for not making me call a 50bb bet to catch your unlikely, but somewhat plausible bluff."
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bigspenda73
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I felt hypocritical for not bluffing here swiggs
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salsa4ever
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i think it was a good non-bluff
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Originally Posted by bigred
Would you bone your cousins? Salsa would.
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Originally Posted by salsa4ever
well courtie, since we're both clear, would you accept an invitation for some unprotected sex?
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