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IowaSkinsFan
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01-22-2006, 01:57 AM
Post subject: $1/$2 Crazy Pineapple is a joke
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Oct 2004
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It is ridiculously loose, if you play tight it is a money pool on paradise.
Thoughts? What are other cash cow games?
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DaNutsInYoEye
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 1,921
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1/2 Draw games are a joke there too.
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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Seasider
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Flush
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Bangor UK
Posts: 563
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Life is a joke, but i'm pissed and it'll make sense in the morning.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 7,148
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Look guys. everyone needs to play pineapple. It is fucking ridiculous. There are almost no swings if you play tight. Overall of playing so far I have 10 winning sessions and 1 losing session. I know it's not a big sample size but the game is so easy and the people are so fucking loose. It's like playing $1/$2 omaha except pineapple punishes peoples losseness so much better.
everyone join the craze. I could probably make a living multitabling $1/$2 crazy pineapple.
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Pelion
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,206
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im thinking my BR is probably too small but i might give it a go for 1 session. whats the basic strategy?
edit: im guessing for starting hands you want suited A + high card so like
AK2 suited to the A or something? or A67 where the A is suited (played for straight/flush. im off to look for strategy websites.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Xanadu
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Full House
Join Date: May 2005
Location: st. paul, MO
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I've played some crazy pineapple at paradise. If I remember correctly, was making about $10/hr/table over about 20 total table hours. I would say you shouldnt see the flop more than about 20% of the time including the blinds (this can be a little higher if the table is so passive you don't have to fold your blinds much). Much like Omaha, you want nut potential in this game. Suited aces are extremely valuable. Suited Kings much less valuable (I calculated it once, and I think I came up with about 1/3 of the time you have a king high flush using 2 from your hand, someone else at a full table will have the A-high flush) By Q-high it's 50-50. Low pairs are virtually worthless. Middle pairs are only playable if you also have a suited A or K or a connector. 3 connected cards (1 gap ok) is playable, but I throw them away if they aren't all 6 or higher. I don't usually play a hand solely on the value of a pair unless it is JJ or higher.
I'll also play any hand all 9 or higher.
Position is important preflop. It is important to see how many are in the pot and if anyone has raiseed. I'll toss away a hand like A56 with a suited ace in early position, but if many have limped and noone has raised, I'm happy to play it in late position. As position improves, and assuming a healthy amount of limpers, you can play lower cards.
You are going to win most hands with full houses, flushes, and straights. Less often with 2pair or 3 of a kind. Flopping top pair is almost worthless without a draw to go with it. Don't chase with marginal hands. AA is a marginal hand if you don't see an A on the flop or have a straight or flush draw to go with it. If you have 789 with 2 hearts, and 2 hearts come on the flop, you can safely fold your flush draw if that's the only thing you've got. You will fold and fold and fold in this game, but that's the only way to go. Basically preflop you want hands with several ways to win. To play a hand in early position, you want 2 ways to make a nut or near nut hand. To continue past the flop, you want 2pair or a draw to a nut or near nut hand (usually don't draw to straights unless it's to the nuts or everyone is putting money in the pot). 2pair is more a full house draw than a made hand. A set is more a full house draw than a made hand depending on the board.
Well, there's some random advice and ramblings on crazy pineapple. I've only played about 20 hours of it, so good chance I'm wrong somewhere ... my play is mostly just a hybrid of what I know from omaha and holdem with very little mathematical analysis. Feel free to ask if you have any specific questions.
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Xanadu
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Full House
Join Date: May 2005
Location: st. paul, MO
Posts: 966
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Good luck finding strategy on this game ... I've looked and came up with nothing as far as webpages on it. Try searching forums.
Probably the biggest thing I noticed about crazy pineapple: It's more boring than omaha. They should make a pot-limit 6max version. Now that might be fun.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 7,148
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for starting hands I raise AAx only. look for suited Aces and don't play AKx AQx unless the A is suited.
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Xanadu
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Full House
Join Date: May 2005
Location: st. paul, MO
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Don't raise just AAx. There will be a couple observant opponents there, and if you play much, they will notice this. This is a big mistake a lot of omaha players make ... raising only with Aces. Also, 90+% of the time you will still have to improve with AAx, so you aren't giving much up by passing on the raise. My personal preference is to never raise Aces, but to raise with KKxs, and any pocket pair Tens or higher with a suited K or A. These are actually stronger hands than an unsuited AAx. They give chances at the nut straight, nut flush, and nut set. AA6o on the other hand, gives only the chance at the nut set.
Another thing about pineapple:
In Omaha, it is a disadvantage for all 4 of your cards to be suited ... less cards in the deck to make your flush. In pineapple, I think it is an advantage to have all 3 suited. This is because you have to discard a card after the flop ... all three the same suit gives flexibility for example to keep 2pair and a backdoor flush draw.
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Miffed22001
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Marry Me Cheryl!!!
Posts: 8,181
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anything on paradise is a joke
making even more money is fun!
p.s omg they suck soooooooo bad!
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dsaxton
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 2,667
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Paradise players suck balls at every game.
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