4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: England UK
Posts: 1,522
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I can see what SC is saying here, I've lost so much money on great tables before in +EV situation, the more people in a hand the less % you are going to win. Obviuosly a pre flop favourote is still a favourite a bad run can see you drop more than a buy in before your cards start holding up. In this time the fish can dissappear to be replaced by rocks.
I've been avoiding the high pot tables recently and go for just above average, it gets to frustrating to see a fish get lucky and leave, or get lucky and then lose your money to the rock sitting next to you.
If you were sitting in the Bellagio, with a full table of fish, great, you will be the person with all the money at the end of the night, but on party there is no gaurentee they will stay once they win your money through suck-outs, or rebuy when they lose it to someone else. As soon as a table becomes juicy the rocks are also quick to put there name on the list and for each fish that busts out a rock quickly replaces them.
I think i do better against weak players and bad players then maniacs and fish. A lucky fish can really hurt your bankroll when you have little chanec of winning the money back as they give it to someone else straight away.
With this being said of course occasionally you are going to make an absolute killing.
I think it comes down to long term win rate Vs variance. Also style of play is very important, just because you can beat a table of avg players doesn't mean you can beat a table of fish, you have to make very specific changes to your strategy TPTK is rarely enough to win a pot.
Vegas pros have gone bust loseing their bankrolls to fish, they just wasn't prepared for the huge variance.
/end rant
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