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Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 119
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Originally Posted by LawDude
Spoon is right. You can, of course, get away with open limping in a very narrow circumstance, which is where you can read the table and are confident that nobody's going to raise a limped pot except in very narrow circumstances where you would want to get out anyway. And advanced players can limp re-raise in certain circumstances (basically when you have a strong hand you want heads-up and are confident that your limp will be iso-raised by a player acting after you whose raising range is way behind your hand).
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Yeah thats what i was thinking about at 2NL- that "narrow circumstance" is rather prevalent. 80% of tables (especially ones with high %players to flop) look like this : limp,limp, limp, limp , limp , call, call ,call ,call ,call. So a raise often only serves the purpose of value, as you never get isolation out of it. And your own limp in turn never gets iso raised unless, as you said, they most likely have a better hand than you're limping with. So limping works there (@2NL) with a hand that needs to hit a flop (you can't bluff with 90 % percent of the time), as you're likely to be playing fit or fold, and the less money you waste before getting this said fit the better.
I definitely agree that open limping basically never works when you have a table where anyone is thinking about more than what they want to wear tomorrow, as it's always going to get iso- raised, so why not raise yourself , etc etc etc. It's probably even good at 2NL for value, and for newcomers for getting the idea drilled into their head of raise/fold poker.
It's just some tables do not seem to have any thought process in their actions sometimes..
And yes open limp-reraising AA UTG at a super aggressive table can work too.
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