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Old 03-09-2010, 09:54 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by Penneywize View Post

On the other side of the coin - how often are hands we actually beat calling our shove?

KK, QQ, KJ, QJ, Q9/98
First of all, you did a good job explaining how a turn shove doesn't fold out better.

Out of the hands you listed that we beat, how many want to bet for value on this turn? KK, QQ, KJ, QJ all hate that turn card. He has position and can check behind and hope to showdown cheaply. So when he bets the turn, his range is made up of a) AQ, AK, 2pair, sets and b) bluffs. To figure out how many bluffing hands he can have, first decide on what hands make a 4x raise UTG+2
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