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LawDude
Old 11-18-2009, 05:42 PM     Post subject: here's your value-raise #1 (permalink)  
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LawDude
15/30 at Hollywood Park last night, typical limp-fest.

Hero is UTG+1 with 6s5s.

UTG limps, Hero limps, 2 more limpers, button raises, SB and BB call, all the limpers call.

Flop is A82 with 2 spades. Checks to UTG. UTG bets. I call. 1 other call. CO raises. Button 3-bets. SB and BB fold. UTG calls. I cap.

Here's the reasoning. First time around, I am out of position so I am not going going to get a free card. So the only effect of my raise is going to be to potentially drive people out of the pot. I also, however, don't likely have much fold equity-- that flop had to hit someone. What I want to do is get as many people into the pot as possible to up my potential implied odds if I hit. If I only get 1 caller as a result of my raise, I am only getting even money on it when I need 2 1/2 to 1 (my odds of making my flush by the river).

Second time around, however, everyone's basically committed to the pot. So now, I should raise as long as I am getting better than 2 1/2 to 1 odds on my additional bets. And with CO, Button, and UTG likely to call any money I throw in there, I am getting the 2 1/2 to 1.

It isn't a matter of ramming and jamming your flush draw. Raise for value when you are getting value.
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