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Old 11-13-2009, 11:43 AM #6 (permalink)  
Two Pair

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Melboure, Australia
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idfk
Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyB73
Quote:
Originally Posted by oskar
... many hands are straddled ...
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A straddle (here in Australia) is a bet UTG before seeing your cards.

Eg. Blinds are $1/2 and you straddle UTG for $4


atikabo:

There are massive differences between Live and Online poker.

My opinion is based against the live poker here in Australia (Crown Casino)

Live:
-Pot sizes are always bigger.
-Less hands per hr which will widen hand selection (more fish).
-Hourly rate is harder to achieve since you are limited to 1 table at a time.
-Sessions are always longer.
-Hourly fee to play on table plus rake is much higher.
-You don't get points or rewards for playing (points are awesome btw)
-Players are much worse.

Online:
-You can multi-table which will allow you to distribute your BR.
-More hands per hour.
-Smaller pots.
-No overheads.
-More flexibility.
-Easier to make notes against players.
-Software available to allow for stats and hand history record keeping.


If you are trying to figure out which is harder? Live or online? Then you will be discussing it forever as they are both very different to each other and really you shouldn't be trying to compare.

Based on the Buy-in and the stake, with the exception of Poker Pro the smallest level here is $2/3 with $200 max BI. If you were to compare live $2/3 with online $2/4 then obviously $2/4 is harder.

But it's not always about that. Live poker can be very difficult and also tiring. For example, if you are playing online poker using proper BRM and rolled for it then you can 12 table and play like a nit for 2-3hrs and beat it for whatever BB per hour and call it a day. You are always getting mental stimulation from playing so many tables at once as well as automatic stat tracking abilities that you don't even need to care how you're opponents are playing because your hand selection is so tight that when you come into a hand it essentially doesn't matter what you are holding because if you're not set mining then you have AA/KK/QQ/AK/AQ and as soon as you isolate preflop you can gain access to your opponents stats to determine their betting and folding frequency post flop. This is just the tip of the iceberg btw.

Live poker is a lot different to that and you require a lot more patience and the hands take a lot longer to finish. You cant take notes or instantly see someones stats. It all comes down to your memory and reading ability. To be a successful live poker player, before you even start to consider your win rates you need to have a strong table game, with the lesser leaks the better, read table dynamic and players, be focused for long periods of time. Did I mention patient? You need this more than anything and if you don't have it you can very easily tilt yourself. In order to maximize how much you can extract from someone when you know you're ahead you really have to be paying attention to how they play with 2nd best pair, or if it is more profitable to check raise or check call, knowing they will continue to bet into you. You need to be able to control the pot size when it suits you a lot more, because so we can play hands with the correct odds and implied odds if we are not playing with a made hand already

This discussion can really have no end but at the end of the day it is easier to play against a 1-tabling fish than a 12-tabling nit. If you can find a table with a few of them on there you can just run all over them and outplay them 85% of the time. You have to allow for that 15% to keep them there dumping money on the table.
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