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daven
Old 10-12-2009, 04:44 AM #19 (permalink)  
Straight Flush

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Quote:
Originally Posted by tugger
I'll go to 12c or more with QQ, JJ, AKs. Standard raise with average-good hands, such as AJs, KQs, TT etc would be to 8c (4xbb) + 2c (1xbb) for each limper.

As for being worried about people making their draws, just bet like 80-90% of the pot. If they call, that's good for you, long term you win money from this call. The chances of someone making their flush on the turn is around one in six, so if they're paying a pot sized bet to see the turn, they are losing money long term, unless they get paid off huge if and when they hit. So don't pay them off too much, and bet enough so if they call you're making money. It's important to see poker as a long term game, you're playing more than just one hand. He might make his flush when he pays a pot size bet, but he isn't making it every time. Over 100 similar hands, he's missing more often than he hits, which is exactly why you win more than you lose if you bet correctly.

Don't be afraid of folding to a bluff. It happens, we all get mugged off, and for sure it's annoying when you fold top pair and he shows two rags. But if you call every time he *might* be bluffing, you're gonna lose money. Call river bets that offer ridiculous odds if you have a hand, like 40c into a $2 pot with 2nd pair, because you only need to catch a bluff one in five times to break even, compared to folding. But if he bets twice the pot on the river to a thrid spade, and you have top pair, it's a fold, because you need to catch two bluffs in three hands, and that's not happening. Top pair is losing to this bet more often than one in three times.
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this part of the advice from Tugger is fine.

i understand where he is coming from with his advice to open shove monsters pre, but he is wrong - already addressed above

As for polite vs not, whatever. Crocodiles are top of the food chain, and it's a combo of sharp teeth and thick skin. Generally people aren't being arseholes, if someone says that something is stupid then try to figure out the reason. If you don't reach the answer yourself then ask why rather than being offended. You'll often get a good answer, as per keith's explanation above. Answer his question too, it's worth it
Quote:
Originally Posted by keith_mM
Once you've moved up though and hit a tough time what should you be thinking about.
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

please read: http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
 
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