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Old 10-08-2009, 10:34 PM     Post subject: Re: swings in limit & win-rate #10 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by scarface_0001
Quote:
Originally Posted by asdpikas
sample size is too small, but, maybe ur not getting full value on your hands?
Usually when I have a hand I bet bet bet on all streets if my opponent doesn't raise. I almost never slowplay. Sometimes I wait for the turn to raise my opponent's donkbet or for the river (usually for the turn) if I have position with good hands. Only in heads-up pots. I don't think I don't get full value on my hands. I think I calldown too much on the river when my opponent raises. Even if I know there are high chances I'm beat sometimes I can't fold for one more bet.
bet/bet/bet lines dont mean you are maxxing value. what do you do when your villain raises for a free card? what do you do when the scare card comes and he raises, but you have showdown value? do you pump your draws with good relative position? do you buy yourself outs in marginal spots to increase your chances of cheap showdowns and/or getting villain HU when he is a chronic bluffer?

these are the spots where you max your winrate. and, they take time to get good in. you cant give up after 45k hands if you want to get good at LHE.

the good news is you dont need those skills to beat 25c/50c, imo. but, you can really work and develop these skills down there with very little resistance.

here is a spot. do you try your best to get as much money in on this river, or are you thinking he has AT when he raises our donk lead?

$0.25/$0.5 Limit Holdem
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero (10.7)
UTG+1 (7.05)
MP1 (5.35)
MP2 (22.35)
MP3 (14.75)
CO (7.2)
BTN (4.75)
SB (15.2)
BB (7.2)

Pre-Flop: (1.4 SB, 9 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises, 3 folds, MP3 calls, 1 fold, BTN calls, 1 fold, BB calls

Flop: (8.4 SB, 4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 calls, BTN calls, BB calls

Turn: (6.2 BB, 4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 raises, 1 fold, BB folds, Hero calls

River: (10.2 BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP3 4-bets, Hero calls

Final Pot: 18.2 BB
MP3 shows two pair, Queens and Jacks

Hero shows three of a kind, Kings


Hero wins 17.4 BB ( won +9.9 BB )

MP3 lost -7.5 BB
BTN lost -1.5 BB
BB lost -1.5 BB
LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
 
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