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Join Date: Feb 2009
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Thanks for the replies. Chopper, I am perfectly willing to take speculative or marginal hands to showdown against maniacs. I do it all the time. I'm not, however, really interested in calling a 3-bet on the river with middle pair against 3 opponents. Are you?
Part of my problem with these tables is that they give me no way to figure out where I am in a hand. In most limit games, you flop TPTK, see a couple of turn raises, and are able to evaluate based on the ranges of the players whether you are looking at a set, or top two, or a big draw, or a bluff.
I can also, as I said, handle maniacs when I can isolate them. Then it really doesn't matter that much where I am in the hand; I know how broad the maniac's range is and stay in the hand when I am ahead of it or have odds to draw out on it.
But what I can't handle is all the callers. I don't know if they are calling because they are always this fishy or because they figure that the maniacs are making the pots so big that they might as well chase. But when there's 7 people to the flop, 6 to the turn, and 4 to the river, and each street has 2 or 3 or 4 bets on it, I don't know when I am betting for value and when I am betting right into reverse implied odds.
So I think Chopper is ultimately right-- I need to avoid these tables because they tilt me. And I also agree with Korn that a few draws hold up and I'm a lot happier about this table. But it's an interesting dynamic that's actually fairly common at live limit tables in these parts, so it's something I need to learn to deal with better. As I said-- it's definitely a leak.
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