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Old 09-30-2009, 12:23 AM #18 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by LawDude
More seriously, Benny, you need to adjust your stove calculation to the villains' likely CALLING range, and then add to the pot equity any fold equity (i.e., both players folding) to get the actual equity in the pot.
Propose a new range then. You played against these opps...you're in the best position to say. You'll have a hell of a time getting a Stove calc below 33% equity though.

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Also, even if a raise is equity justified, it can still be wrong if it drives people out of the pot who might be paying you off on later streets. You are getting pot odds and losing implied odds.
Seriously, stop with the implied odds talk. They are a valuable consideration when decisions are close, but should not be the basis of your play, particularly if you're choosing to ignore reverse implied odds, which increase by allowing people to play on cheaply. As for driving people out, you should never worry about getting a whole pot shipped to you...the only time you should worry about driving everyone out is when you have a huge made hand.
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