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Old 09-08-2009, 06:49 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by texa8
you spoke about checking medium strength hands like KK, QQ on A high board behind, and delayed cbetting turn.. when villain leads turn however, as you've mentioned happens with air a lot, typically we are looking at calling and getting to a cheap showdown? it feels like calling on the turn reveals our hand a whole lot, and puts us in a tough spot when observant player leads river with a large bet?
if you think he'll do that as a bluff, there's no reason why we can't call him twice

but another the problem with checking KK on Axx is because we're more likely to get value bet really thin by TPNK that realizes that we have middle pair or a similar hand to what we have (JJ-KK)

so actually both of those things are a problem
also, if villain checks A83 flop and I have 77 I will c/f turn because I think it's a lot of 99-KK and Ax
but if he cbets I will often call because he would cbet his air
so actually betting KK would be superior because it gets value from worse
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