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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Originally Posted by surviva316
well my original answer to the original question was going to be a completely non-mathematic answer until i realized that 3b 10bb/fold to 4b was an option so i actually had to do EV calculations.
i was just gonna flatly point out that the only difference between the two is that in the 3b pushing option we beat QQ and AK 100% of the time well we are less than break even against those hands in the 3b 10x's option.
sooo are you getting at the fact that this question is really all about FE? the more hands we can fold out of his range the better w/o having to run calculations or any of that crap
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Just some ramblings about applying this concept to a wider range of hands and more situations (trying to apply what we've learned):
For this specific case, with this specific hand, being behind those two hands in terms of equity which we can fold out (here any of the pocket pairs since they all have an equity advantage against AKo), yes. In general, no. Again, the calculations are important as our 3-betting range gets expanded beyond AKo in either direction. With an opponent who's deep(er), with trash hands (against a deeper opponent), or with the top end of our range (here AA, KK), it's not always true. The trash hands would have too little equity with a push (deep enough, so will AKo). AA, KK would be giving up too much value by pushing out hands they dominate.
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