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Originally Posted by bode
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Originally Posted by bjsaust
Is it terrible that I've started considering never 4-betting other than shoving OOP?
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yeah, pretty sure thats terrible.
is there a training vid or something out recently advocating flatting 4bets? |
nah, CTS wrote about shoving as a 4b
basically, just go around shovelling on people as a 4b all the goddamn time, and you'll get paid when you have a big hand and you'll never get 5b bluffed
so basically we get slightly more fold equity if we shove as a 4b because we can't get rebluffed
what we give up is being able to catch a 5b bluff
so obviously we want to use this strategy against people who 3b a lot because they will never have 35% of their range able to call a 4b shove and if we get 65% folds with equity when called we are making a profit
if we 4b and fold we have no equity in the hand but we need only say 60% folds (depends on size)
if someone is going to 5b bluff 5% of the time, it's worth shoving it in as a 4b bluff because we prevent those 5b bluffs and if we run into the value range we still have tons of equity (when we 4b and fold we have 0 equity in the hand)
so with 100BB stacks it can go either way
when you get deeper, even 110BB, 4bing small gets better