Straight
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 171
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There are a couple of ways to interpret that "this edition isn't really about 3-betting."
1) It's not about 3-betting.
1a) Given we know overbet shove > 10x 3-bet > fold, that means calling would need to be better than shoving on average. We've got a couple of factors working for us to help us extract value. First, we know we are almost always up against pp's. Meaning most A and/or K flops will often win the pot for us and we don't need to worry about 3 card straights or flushes beating us. Also, A and/or K flops would be good for our opponent to bluff at (but he doesn't often need to bluff to push out better hands given the amount of pp's in his opening range). It'd also be unlikely he'd be willing to stack off on an A/K high board w/o a set or an overpair. I see a lot of checking down for pot control, what we want to avoid.
1b) How about exploiting post flop the same way we can pf? We could open shove the flop (this can't be better than shoving preflop since his odds to hit a set are better than his continuing range and our equity would have dropped significantly if he hits a set so we'd be doing worse here).
1c) How about c/shoving any flop? Again, for the same reasons listed above, this isn't going to do it unless he's putting quite a bit into the pot on the flop ui.
I don't see how we'd be able to extract enough value oop when we hit to make up for the 3.5 bb we put into the pot plus the 3 bb EV we'd get from shoving. I'm with surviva here. I must be missing something if this is the case.
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2) It's not "really" about 3-betting (aka - it's about playing against thinking opponents).
A thinking opponent would be able to exploit this player by 3 betting wide. When playing against thinking opponents we need to think about the game-theoretic strategy, the least exploitable. This player's choice to short stack combined with choosing to raise far wider than he is willing to stack off with makes him very exploitable. Precisely what we need to avoid doing as players - being exploitable.
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3) The most likely case - I've missed something that is very important here.
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