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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Really appreciate all the effort JKDS, if you ever in South Africa let me know and your beer is sponsored by me 
Yeah i play only 6 max.
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Question 3 - Exploitation
So the 3bet stats i have on my HUD are Fold to 3bet%, 3bet% and fold to Cbet in 3bet pot %. I also have pfr by street to see how wide villian are opening. What are ranges for these numbers?
If a villian has a low fold to 3bet% what is the best way to exploit him? I would think to losen my value 3betting range a little to say add AQ and TT, as well as losen my flatting range to his opens say adding KJ and 88. Will tend to 3bet bluff this villian a lot less.
If villian has a high fold to 3bet% what is the best way to exploit him? I would think that i would prob move some of my standard value hands into my calling range and widen my bluffing range to take advantage of him folding too much.
no clue to the first paragraph.
if villain has a low fold to 3bet %, then we dont have much fold equity. this means are bluffs no longer become immediately successful (if fold to cb in 3b pot is high we can still do it occasionally). However, if they are continuing fairly wide, we can usually widen our 3b for value range to take advantage of it. If villain doesnt fold often to 3bets though, i dont really see a reason to widen our calling range...it seems silly.
if he has a high fold to 3bet% we still want our value range to be 3betting because we want money in the pot and many villains arent folding their premiums regardless of how often they fold to 3bets. and ya, widen bluffing range is good...just dont make it obvious ur bluffing wider or youll get 4b more often.
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Concerning the villian with low fold to 3bet. So then best would just be to move some of our standard calling hands into our value range and just have a smaller calling range of the hand that remain? For example move AQ AJs TT-JJ into the value range. Obviously the default ranges are based on what % he open from that position. Then these are adjusted based on his fold to 3bet.
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Question 4 - Calling 3bets
I suspect that i fold to correctly sized 3bet a little too much. So what sort of ranges are we looking to call a 3bet with. Obviously position and his 3bet% would be the decidining factors. Here i have very little idea so am not even gonna venture a guess
even at 25nl, many villains arent 3betting as a bluff too often and are often doing it strictly for value with a tightish range. so we want to be calling with a range of hands that has good enough equity to continue against that range. Depending on how tight that value range is though depends on what hands are in our calling range. for instance, QQ can be a prime calling hand in some scnearios, while AJs might be on in others. and ya, position and 3bet% will factor into this.
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What about small pairs ? Letss assume we start the hand 100bb deep. Now i understand that we are a 7 to 1 dog to flop a set so from 10 to 1 on the stack factoring in implied odds we can call just to set mine. I think 10 to 1 is the bare minimum in position and out of position i would want more like 15 to 1.
The thing is that assumes that we are ONLY set mining with our small PPs. If we could win that hands in another way other than flopping a set then it would allow more calls. Say you know this 3bet% is quite big and he also is a one bullet monkey giving up on the turn when he hasnt hit. If you got that read then u can start also 3bet/calling with AJ AT suited connectors etc. All this assumes a high 3bet and the read he gives up on turn.
Example villina has 3bet% of say 7% and we have the postflop read that he is a one bullet monkey. You raise 22 on the BTN he 3bets to 3x and you are getting 9 to 1 on his stack. Is this now a call ?
Now does this mean that without the read we cannot assume this and have to be pretty tight in our 3bet/call range even if we know he is 3betting a wide range, but we don't have the postlop read.
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Question 4 - Calling 3bets
I suspect that i fold to correctly sized 3bet a little too much. So what sort of ranges are we looking to call a 3bet with. Obviously position and his 3bet% would be the decidining factors. Here i have very little idea so am not even gonna venture a guess
even at 25nl, many villains arent 3betting as a bluff too often and are often doing it strictly for value with a tightish range. so we want to be calling with a range of hands that has good enough equity to continue against that range. Depending on how tight that value range is though depends on what hands are in our calling range. for instance, QQ can be a prime calling hand in some scnearios, while AJs might be on in others. and ya, position and 3bet% will factor into this.
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Yeah agree about using 4bet sparsingly at 25NL. Still i would like some thought when a 4bet small is good and a 4bet jam?
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Question 5 : Playing postflop
Ok so the SPR in 3bet pots on flop is smaller so how does this effect our cbetting frequency?
For exmaple say we 3bet 79s out of the BB to a BTN who open 25% of his BTNs and fold to 3bet of only 30%. Flop comes 2 5 5. Are we c/f this flop as a large part of his range is PP's and AK AQ that might peel one given dynamic. If we gonna be c/f 3bet pot on the flop then we need to balance that with c/f some good hands as well correct ?
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LOL sorry i mean to type c/r when i was talking of balance.
What i was also trying to get is our cbet in 3bet pot frequency gonna be higher than in normaly 2bet pots ?
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