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Old 06-04-2009, 04:46 PM #21 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by Muzzard
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Originally Posted by Keilah
What about if he adjusts by 4betting, we take 15% of our bluff range and start shoving it? The suited aces do decently against QQ+, AK.

Good post. I did the exact same maths a couple months ago, maybe I should have posted it too =)
If we reduce our 4bet bluffing range to less than the 61.5% we don't really need to 5bet bluff. We are unexploitable anyway to his 4bet bluffs based upon the math and he's going to be running into QQ+/AK 38.5% of the time which we woudl be able to 5bet shove profitably anyway when it reaches this stage.
When we reach this stage the standard vs our villains should be to decrease our 3bet bluffing % and increase our 5bet shoving range. Remember that folding to a 4bet is 0 EV, while if we increase our 5betrange (both bluff and valuerange) is +EV.
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