Originally Posted by BennyLaRue

Then you'll make a fine limit player.

The reality is that you don't *know* you are beat. You have scraps of evidence that add up to tell a story. In the case of Hand 2 on the river, if c/c is your line, you only have to be right and win the pot 4% of the time to break even. You never have enough evidence to be more than 96% sure, so you play on, your decision made much easier by the fact that one player is all-in*.

That said, I think you went wrong on the Turn. Sandwiched between two opps, raising the SB's lead bet is a better play, imo. If you're beat, you almost want the MP to 3-bet and the SB to cap, as you can then safely get away from your hand when it is two big bets back to you. But raising also changes the dynamic of the hand as you continue to show aggression and can see how your opps respond. You hope they respond by slowing down and have exerted your maximum effort to get them to do that by raising.

Back to the river though, and also when heads-up on the turn, you will call down a lot more in limit and a significant amount more in 6-max than FR. Some of the times you're calling down, you will feel like a donkey, but mathematically, it is often the correct play. All you can do is learn the math, ignore the swings, and trust it will all turn out in your favor in the end.

* - Players who are short-stacked enough to go all-in in limit are moronic. You'll often find, absent any other reads, that this is indicative of a loose-aggro spewmonkey, who feels that his only move is to try and get all his money in in an effort to 1) push people off a hand, 2) call upon the poker gods for lottery type luck. These guys are showing down T8o as often as they are showing down a quality hand. I'm sure that isn't the case here or you wouldn't be posting it, but you'll see this over time.