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Old 02-14-2009, 06:02 PM     Post subject: Re: Delayed cbetting questions/criticism #8 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by jimmy44
Really nice read!
And gratz for your spot in THE MATCH

I just have a comment on the 3bet section.
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Originally Posted by Parasurama
Medium-strength+weaker draw subrange: {KK,QQ, 67s,78s, 97s,89s/86s(no spades)} Betting KK here folds out all worse hands and keeps all better hands in. Betting QQ folds out all worse hands and folds only one better hand (KK). None of the hands in this range can continue against a c/r and all can benefit from seeing a free turn. If villain checks to us again on the turn it is much less likely that he has an A since it is rare for players to go for a c/r twice in a row. We can bet and often get value with our high pairs and folds with our junk.
Actually, c-bet KK on a A high 3b pot is not going to fold out only weaker hands. This would depend on villain. Some villains would call with QQ-88, knowing that this is a perfect flop to c-bet. I think to c-bet or not this kind of flop with QQ-KK depends on the type of villain and our position (e.g. if we are IP vs an aggro villain it's better to check-behind so that he can bluff TURN/RIVER).
Plus, there is something else quite important: the size of a 3bet pot is quite important to want to take it down.
True, true, I haven't played against many villains who will call with QQ-88 because they don't believe I have the ace.

Also I kind of took the easy way out by putting us in position in these examples. I'm so terrible at playing OOP in 3bet pots.
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