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Old 10-10-2008, 03:11 PM #158 (permalink)  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wakeup
How do we handle middling hands after steals?? Like second pair sort of hands? Some examples:
(I run 18/16/2, ATS 50%)


Vs a 21/4 over 100 hands
Hero (CO): $232.00
BTN: $110.65
SB: $212.10
BB: $225.80
UTG: $40.00
UTG+1: $40.00
UTG+2: $320.65
MP1: $171.20
MP2: $217.85
Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is CO with 7c 8c
3 folds, MP1 calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $10, 3 folds,

MP1 calls $8
Flop: ($23.00) Ah 8d 3s (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($23.00) Th (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero ?


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Vs 2 unknowns
SB: $62.55
BB: $322.00
UTG: $103.45
MP: $200.00
Hero (CO): $197.00
BTN: $62.65
Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is CO with Td 8h
2 folds, Hero raises to $6, BTN calls $6, 1 fold, BB calls $4

Flop: ($19.00) 8s 5c Qc (3 players)
BB checks, Hero ?

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BB 14/9/2 over 400, SB unknown

UTG+1: $192.00
MP1: $196.00
MP2: $214.05
Hero (CO): $197.00
BTN: $193.00
SB: $202.20
BB: $200.00
UTG: $198.00
Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is CO with 8d 8s
4 folds, Hero raises to $6, 1 fold, SB calls $5, BB calls $4

Flop: ($18.00) Tc Ts 5h (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero ??
It's really a situational thing that you can't give a broad blanket statement to, but here are some guidelines to think about. If your opponent's range contains a lot of potential free cards, then you should be more likely to bet to protect your hand. In contrast, if you have K5s on a board of AK4r, it's probably better to check behind. If your opponent's range hits the flop with a lot of strength, like a 10/6 who defends his blinds 5% calls when you steal with 86s and the flop comes 762r, then you should be more likely to try to see a free turn and river since you're almost always behind his calling range. Finally, if you hit a flop with a lot of backdoor draws and you're not sure of how profitable a c-bet is, then it's fine to go ahead and see the turn. For example, you steal with A4s and get called by an unknown and the flop comes T52 giving you a backdoor flush draw, then it's fine to check behind since there are a lot of turn cards that could help you.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
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Rule # 1: don't ask questions

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I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
 
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