DrButtInski
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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I guess I generally assume most of my opps are on level 1, maybe it's a BI thing. If they are level 0 def limp call is best. If not, someone running 12/8 or whatever who limps, calls a raise and gives action has their hand face up.
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- If we raise and get flat called, and broadway cards come on the flop, are we c-betting? Will we really win 75% of the time in this spot?
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I'd say closer to 2/1, but don't forget we'll have a set on some of these flops.
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- If we raise preflop we need to weigh up the times that we c-bet the flop, get called and have to c/f the turn thereby burning like 300 chips rather than just 30-120 if we limp and play for set value
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counter balanced by much larger average pot when we hit set.
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- If we raise and get flat called by 2+ players, are we c-betting the flop with or without overs? A lot of players at the $22 level will not necessarily re-raise with 99-JJ in position.
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I don't see what this has to do with 88, getting called by two players and not having a hand is always a problem.
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For the simple reason that if we get raised, we have odds to call the raise and play for implied odds value with 88 but not with 87.
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Again this goes back to level 0/1. I'd rather limp (or raise) both so sometimes when we give action we have a nice big draw rather than the set so we can get mistake calls and mistake folds.
Also consider min raising, you can usually still call the raise coming back but get most of the benefit post flop of the pre raise.
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