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spoonitnow

02-03-2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by d0zer

Another excellent post mr spoon. This is the refinement that my newfound blind stealing ways needed. I've moved up to 50NL, and am noticing that the blind steal c-bet vs 25/3 types is very effective -- people seem a whole lot tighter postflop making the in position c-bet fairly profitable.

Wouldn't it be just as profitable against tighter players (like a 15/10) who are probably limp/calling PPs and maybe SCs, given how much those hands miss -- as long as you can shutdown when you hit resistance?

What about a 35/2/.7 type who could potentially call your c-bet with a wider range like 2 overs, mid pair etc... Seems like a dangerous participant to include in the limp/blind steal.

Wouldn't the PAHud "Folded to flop bet %" stat would be useful here, alongside the wide limp/PFR indicator, but I guess when you're 14-tabling you don't have time to check every limper's detailed stats

Even when I'm 24-tabling, I check limpers' detailed stats before raising with certain hands. I actually have a custom part at the bottom of my detailed stats list (when you click on their name it pops up in PAHUD) for stats that I deem relevant to dealing with limpers. Among those is the fold to flop bet %, so yes you're correct on that.

These posts that I'm making are really just to introduce you guys to ideas that you might not have brought into your game yet, and give you some tips to use those ideas more effectively.

One more thing: remember that when we're called by a limper who has something like 77, it's a lot easier to play our hand than it is to play his hand, so it's not as dangerous as you would first think.

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