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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Melbourne
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HERE'S ONE FOR THE OMAHA HIGH PLAYERS
There are no right or wrong answers in poker. But here's some things to think about when you have a drawing hand in PLO
1. A good time to call is in a multiway pot where you have the draw to the nuts. NFD facing a flop bet of about 6-10 BBs and there's another 2 callers between you and the bettor. Perfect time to flat call. You don't want to raise and eliminate worse draws.
2. In fact, flat calling the flop with an 8 or 9 out draw is never that bad.
3. You need to make a read. If you're playing against someone who can make folds you bet and raise your draws. If you're playing against someone who just won't fold, call and you'll get implied odds.
4. A good spot to call is if you have a nice draw, lets say a 13 out straight draw and the pot on the turn is $100, and you both have $150 behind. When villain pots it for $100 to you, there's no point raising. Because you know he can't get away from the last $50 if you hit your straight, but you can lay down your no-pair if he bets the last $50 on a safe river.
5. Generally, OOP dictates betting and last to act dictates calling. If you go check-call check-call bet when the scare hits on the river, you're not getting paid off. But it's significantly more difficult for your opponent to fold if he's checked to you and you make a half pot bet. If he consistently folds, then you're going to make a lot of value off him every time you half pot a scare card that doesn't make your hand. Whereas if you've been betting with a NFD and your opponent is chasing with a Q or K high or a straight draw and you hit the river and pot it again, you'll get paid.
6. If there's any non-negligible chance you're winning right now, you have to be betting and raising. AA+NFD is one of these spots.
7. If you need to eliminate opponents, bet and raise - e.g. 789T with a 9-high flush draw on a A96 board is an ideal time for this. Because the ace is out there, the most likely draw that actually beats you is not available. So stuff like Q/J/T-high flush draws are more likely to fold to your show of strength and you clear your outs. But if it's heads up you can call a PSB because your opponent won't be sure what draw you've got and will have to pay you off a bit.
8. The more possible draws there are, the more implied odds. That's just what Sklansky says in NLHP and it applies to Omaha too.
9. When in doubt, play your draws aggressively. I don't know if it applies at your stakes, but if you want to play your made hands fast (as you almost always do), then you need to balance.
10. Heads up against a competent opponent if you don't think raising is a viable option in the circumstances with a NFD and nothing else, and you're facing a large potsize bet with no other draws on the board, you'll want to fold.
EXAMPLE:
Sorry for the unconverted hand history.
Here's a hand that kinda illustrates what I'm talking about. What are the factors that influence whether I call and try to hit, or play it fast?
I'm OOP = play it fast
Possibility of having the best hand = play fast
Need to eliminate opponents with 2 low spades = play fast
Possibility of calling and encouraging multiway action = play slow, but this applies less to straights, because there's less scope for them to make a second best hand. Argument would apply better with a NFD.
The factors favour playing fast. When it gets checked around and the guy on the button bets, I'm suddenly feeling even better about my hand. So I take the lead here
(note: on reflection I think I should have made a raise to about $10 pre flop). But in a vacuum, the hand does illustrate some of the points I've been making.
***** Hand History for Game 5961334153 *****
$400 USD PL Omaha - Saturday, May 12, 08:36:44 ET 2007
Table Table 125432 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 2: Any_97 ( $276.48 USD )
Seat 3: redbull344 ( $419.20 USD )
Seat 4: xhouseofpain ( $64 USD )
Seat 5: skint_101 ( $326.90 USD )
Seat 7: Zerberus666 ( $354 USD )
Seat 9: SMEGVIP ( $456.20 USD )
Seat 10: braquemator ( $218 USD )
Seat 6: HERO ( $732.60 USD )
Seat 1: Hailbopp ( $196 USD )
HERO posts small blind [$2 USD].
Zerberus666 posts big blind [$4 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Qc Qh Kc Jd ]
SMEGVIP calls [$4 USD]
braquemator calls [$4 USD]
Hailbopp calls [$4 USD]
Any_97 folds
redbull344 folds
xhouseofpain folds
skint_101 calls [$4 USD]
HERO calls [$2 USD]
Zerberus666 checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9s, 3s, Td ]
HERO bets [$10]
Zerberus666 checks
SMEGVIP checks
braquemator checks
Hailbopp raises [$25 USD]
>You have options at Table 125381 (No DP) Table!.
skint_101 folds
HERO raises [$90 USD]
Zerberus666 folds
>You have options at Table 128153 (No DP) Table!.
SMEGVIP folds
braquemator folds
Hailbopp calls [$65 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ]
HERO bets [$135 USD]
Hailbopp folds
HERO does not show cards.
Hopefully this got you thinking about how you play your draws. Discussion, criticism, comments, improvements welcome.
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