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Old 03-28-2007, 01:48 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by zenbitz
As for being deceptive with 1 pair hands... I don't really "get" this either, but I would think "pot control" is the opposite of deception here, unless you like to slow play monsters. So what he must mean is that you have to sometimes play 1-pair hands strong for balance? I guess playing draws weakly balances pot control TPGK hands.
This is an interesting take, and it's definitely at least part of what they had in mind. I didn't post the exact text, but it might clear things up:
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Concept No. 7: Don't telegraph that you have one pair unless you can profitably call big bets
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If you welcome a big bet with one pair because you expect that bet to be a bluff, then it's ok to telegraph your hand by playing it in a way that makes it obvious what you hold. Doing so might help induce a big bluff. But if you plan to fold your pair to a big bet or raise, you should make an effort to disguise your hand to discourage a big bluff. You can choose either to make it look weaker or stronger than one pair.
Italics mine. So basically, if you're playing against a good, tagg opponent that expects you to check behind the turn for pot control with TPTK, disguising your hand might be firing a second barrel. If you have an aggro, spewy image and have been caught second-barreling, then disguising it might be betting the turn.

I don't do this third-level thinking enough, but I'm going to try.

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Originally Posted by zenbitz
I guess the difference between bluff to stop a bluff and block betting is when
a) you want a fold vs call
b) there are cards to come and you have outs, but no showdown value (semi-bluff to stop a bluff?)
In Sklansky's example, you're oop on the river and you have a mediocre hand and your opponent could have a wide range (air to good) and is capable of bluffing. To me, better here to stop a bluff sounds a lot like a block bet. But maybe with a block bet you have a better hand and your opponent's range is better and more defined (like good to nuts).
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