4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: 6max limit tables
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
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Originally Posted by bigg_nate
elipsesjeff, stop being so cryptic and tell us your answer (and the math behind it), so we can tell you why you're wrong 
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HAHA. I'm waiting for the SSH quote. I'd post it but the book is at school.
BTW, SSH is the bible.
SSH, SSH, SSH, SSH, SSH, SSH, Thought i'd have some fun  |
I did quote SSH on my post there bud, under the implied odds section... or real close to it...
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Originally Posted by PokerFanatic
Well if you want to JUST look at the Turn assuming you will not play any farther w/o improving given you fold to one bet when you miss and gain beats only when you improve you can make an argument that by calling the flop you are free rolling the turn... figuring you’re loosing nothing but a 1sb (the flop) when you miss and win at least 1bb possibly more depending on the player and there hand when you hit...
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Note: Changed to replicate this example they use the example as if you were on the turn going into the river... with a gut shot...
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... Using pot odds alone, we concluded that the pot must lay 10.5:1 to call profitably. But we ignored the turn beating round. If you miss your draw, you will fold to one bet, so you still loose only 1/2 bet from the flop. But if you make your draw, there will probably be more beating on 4th and 5th street. If your opponent has only TPTK you might get 1bb out of each street, however if your opponent has a set, he may raise if you beat, thus you would get 2 to 4 bets in on 4th and 5th street both. So with a draw like this, the turn is a freeroll to you: You lose nothing if you miss, but you could make one or more bets if you complete your stright...
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