Full House
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 923
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3-5 players seeing the flop in a 2/4 B&M game is a freakin' pipe dream at my local casino. It's more like 5-7 usually.
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I deal at the place hagakure is talking about, have dealt to him many hours already. The 2/4 and 3/6 games he is talking about are extremely loose. Way looser than the .50/1.00 game at Party.
A lot of these idiots will call down with horrible kickers, bottom pair, etc. It is true that you want these calls, but when you have them all calling at once, one of them will improve to some crazy 2 pair or three of a kind.
Individually these players are benign, but when they get together, they are a force to be reckoned with.
I think the "value call" that we have gotten used to in online limit loses value in extremely loose games. Being able to pick up reads on what your opps have is EXTREMELY important.
I would definitely open up my 3-bet range in these games, and do a ton of check raising on the flop when flopping top pair/decent kicker. The fish love to call, but even the fish don't like to cold call 2 bets. You can probably maximize this by choosing the correct seat at the table, so that you are out of position on someone that likes to bet out at a lot of flops. Get that person on your right and you can use them to run isolation plays on the rest of the table.
I'm still not convinced that 2/4 and 3/6 can be beat because of the oppressive rake at these limits.
You definitley should try and get up to 4/8 as soon as you can. The 4/8 games there are really good. There are several players in the room that play an FTR style game and they almost never lose....
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