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Posted: Thu, 24 Jul 2008, 2:35am Post subject: this is a fold right? (66) final table 24+2 -(45man) |
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 06 Oct 2006
Posts: 85
WPP: 138
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Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 250/500 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
BB: 11,230
UTG: 7,530
UTG+1: 6,575
Hero (MP1): 7,019
MP2: 10,541
CO: 7,674
BTN: 4,886
SB: 12,045
no one opens
Pre-Flop: (750) 6 6 dealt to Hero (MP1)
only top 6 players are paid, and there are no antes
what actually happened was i raised and got stacked by JJ when i was re-raised by a 40/20 |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Jul 2008, 3:18am Post subject: |
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3-of-a-Kind
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also i wanted to post this hand
i get KK and its folded around to me in SB
i decide to play slow because the BB hasn't played a single hand, so i minraise and get called
flop comes Qd 2h 5s
i bet half he calls
turn 4d
at this point is a check ok?
i bet half pot again and get minraised
i RRAI because im not good at poker and he flips Q2
As played: im thinking bet more on turn and fold to raise? that seems stupid tho... |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Jul 2008, 11:16am Post subject: |
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i rarely, if ever, get pms
Joined: 28 Apr 2005
Posts: 4123
WPP: 184
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Hand 1) Don't show results as they skew responses (I edited it). I am assuming this is a satty into a bigger event. I am not much of a satty player, but I would think this is close given stack sizes. I think it's either a push or fold and I wouldn't fault either play (but I might be way off on saying the push is fine).
2) You played KK tricky to try and maximize value and got coolered. I might just call the minraise rather than get it all-in, but I don't see how u r getting away from this hand. |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Jul 2008, 11:26am Post subject: |
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3-of-a-Kind
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| chardrian wrote: | | Hand 1) Don't show results as they skew responses |
that makes a lot of sense, got it.
| Quote: | | I am assuming this is a satty into a bigger event. |
actually these 45mans on Full Tilt pay top 6 cash.
thank you for your thoughts on the hands |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Jul 2008, 11:46am Post subject: |
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i rarely, if ever, get pms
Joined: 28 Apr 2005
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hmmmmmm
it's still close. 14xBBs and even without antes you are increasing your stack by over 10% just by stealing the blinds. But it's also only 66. If you get called it usually means u r crushed - at best u r racing against AQ/AK. I would much rather you open fold this and keep your good resteal stack than raise/fold and force yourself into solely push/fold. |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Jul 2008, 12:02pm Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 6662
WPP: 66
Location: Somewhere in middle america
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1) push/fold and I agree it's pretty close, you can't really go wrong. KE has a shove chart that stops at M=8, with 8M no antes 3 off the BU they say shove 44+. It's kinda hard too because there is probably some payout impact we should look at (chart assume we are far from money).
Hand 2) without stack sizes it's hard but I can't see folding here without a 4 monotone board or something. |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Jul 2008, 12:07pm Post subject: |
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3-of-a-Kind
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i guess another factor is how confident you are that you can get a much better spot later on?
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ps. open fold means the same thing as limp right?
and if so, does that mean we're folding to someone behind who raises it up to 3BB's? if not, then it should just be called open!!!111 |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Jul 2008, 12:16pm Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 6662
WPP: 66
Location: Somewhere in middle america
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| open fold means fold. limping is dreadful here unless I guess the table is really passive pre then spewwy post I guess. |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Jul 2008, 12:20pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 18 May 2007
Posts: 365
WPP: 268
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| Open fold just means plain old fold. |
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Posted: Thu, 24 Jul 2008, 12:44pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 03 Jul 2005
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| I fold the 66 hand. From later position I'd raise and go with it all the way most of the time. |
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