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Posted: Tue, 08 Jul 2008, 11:13pm Post subject: SOMEBODY PLEASE...... |
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Flush

Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Posts: 280 WPP: 98
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tell me when i am supposed to fold here... if ever.
he could easily have JJ+.
is stacking off here just part of the swings involved in ring?.... sometimes they have a set sometimes JJ-KK..... ??? i just want to know if i'm supposed to learn to fold here.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Button ($14.90)
Hero ($25.10)
BB ($11.35)
UTG ($54.20)
MP ($37.95)
CO ($28.05)
Preflop: Hero is SB with A , A .
2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.55, 1 fold, CO calls $1.80.
Flop: ($5.35) T , 2 , 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.85, CO raises to $10, Hero raises to $22.55 (All-In), CO calls $12.55.
Turn: ($50.45) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($50.45) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $50.45
Results in white below:
Hero has As Ac (one pair, aces).
CO has Tc Td (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: CO wins $50.45. |
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Posted: Tue, 08 Jul 2008, 11:18pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 20 Dec 2005
Posts: 3134 WPP: 87
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Posted: Tue, 08 Jul 2008, 11:37pm Post subject: |
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Flush

Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Posts: 280 WPP: 98
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lol.
i'm not sure what that means G.
a yes or no would be helpful.... or a virtual tongue lashing. |
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Posted: Tue, 08 Jul 2008, 11:49pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 28 Jan 2005
Posts: 2494 WPP: 93
Location: Arlington, VA
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| If you're folding aces here you're leaking money. |
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Posted: Tue, 08 Jul 2008, 11:57pm Post subject: |
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Flush

Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Posts: 280 WPP: 98
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i agree!!!
but you should go read my thread called... "does this ever end".
some were saying.... "stop stacking off with over pairs on low flops".
it was very interesting how people contradicted themselves.
anyway.... i'm a ring noob.... so still learning. |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Jul 2008, 12:33am Post subject: |
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Straight

Joined: 29 Oct 2007
Posts: 200 WPP: 80
Location: Rotterdam, Holland
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don't fold here. look at the board, look at the player and think about things like:
"can he be on a draw with the preflop action"
"did the board hit his range of hands"
"is this guy ever bluffing"
"does he raise with top pair and gets allin with 1p hands" |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Jul 2008, 12:37am Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Posts: 947 WPP: 65
Location: Cheshire, UK
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Make your raise bigger pre your OOP and you gave him implied set odds on the call.
Other than this you played it fine,his range is far wider than sets only. |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Jul 2008, 12:41am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 20 Dec 2005
Posts: 3134 WPP: 87
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Corbin he can have lots of draws and weaker overpairs
The biggest factor is that more than 10% of your stack went in preflop. If you never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever... |
Last edited by Genitruc on Wed, 09 Jul 2008, 12:43am; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Wed, 09 Jul 2008, 12:42am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 20 Dec 2005
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| ...ever ever fold aces after the action goes like this, you'll still turn a profit. |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Jul 2008, 12:43am Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 29 Mar 2007
Posts: 822 WPP: 93
Location: Deventer
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He's not really giving him set odds, when we have AK here we're not stacking of. 3bet size seems fine to me.
It's just a cooler, sorry but it's part of the game, live with it. |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Jul 2008, 12:52am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 20 Dec 2005
Posts: 3134 WPP: 87
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| minSim wrote: | He's not really giving him set odds, when we have AK here we're not stacking of. 3bet size seems fine to me.
It's just a cooler, sorry but it's part of the game, live with it. | Here are my two biggest hands from today.
Table "Gas" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: HERO ($481.40 in chips)
Seat 6: OnUrBike ($886.78 in chips)
HERO: posts small blind $1
OnUrBike: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO
HERO: raises to $7
OnUrBike: raises to $20
HERO: calls $13
----- FLOP -----
OnUrBike: bets $27
HERO: raises to $92
OnUrBike: raises to $178
HERO: raises to $461.40 and is all-in
OnUrBike: calls $283.40
----- TURN -----
----- RIVER -----
----- SHOW DOWN -----
HERO: shows (Three of a kind, Tens, Ace high)
OnUrBike: shows (Three of a kind, Queens, Ace high)
OnUrBike collected $961.80 from Main pot
Seat 1: Lutherk (£80.13 in chips)
Seat 2: HERO (£371.45 in chips)
Seat 3: Djmorris (£123 in chips)
Seat 5: Theraiser (£306 in chips)
Seat 6: JornLeth (£247 in chips)
Seat 7: Ravageur (£304.23 in chips)
Seat 8: Simmel (£200 in chips)
Seat 9: Marsdawg (£200 in chips)
Seat 10: Pucka1 (£71.81 in chips)
Ravageur: posts small blind £1
Simmel: posts big blind £2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to HERO
Pucka1: folds
Lutherk: folds
HERO: raises to £7
Djmorris: folds
Theraiser: calls £7
JornLeth: folds
Ravageur: folds
Simmel: calls £5
----- FLOP -----
Simmel: checks
HERO: bets £15
Theraiser: calls £15
Simmel: raises to £45
HERO: raises to £364.45 and is all-in
Theraiser: is all-in £284
Simmel: is all-in £148
Returned uncalled bets £65.45 to HERO
----- TURN -----
----- RIVER -----
----- SHOW DOWN -----
HERO: shows (Three of a kind, Sixes, King high)
Theraiser: shows (Three of a kind, Sevens, King high)
Simmel: shows (A Pair of Jacks, King high)
Theraiser collected £212 from Side pot #1
Theraiser collected £598 from Main pot
This b.s. is part of the game. Spend more time thinking about the small pots, interesting ways of owning regs and ideal lines vs fish than worrying about folding the quasi-nuts.
If you had JJ in the hand you posted, then we'd have a hand worth talking about. |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Jul 2008, 1:50am Post subject: |
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Flush

Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Posts: 280 WPP: 98
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i quit.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP ($16.15)
Hero ($25.55)
Button ($42.70)
SB ($43.55)
BB ($31.55)
UTG ($27.70)
Preflop: Hero is CO with K , J .
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, Button calls $1.25, 2 folds, MP calls $1.
Flop: ($4.10) J , 5 , K (3 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $3, Button calls $3, MP folds.
Turn: ($10.10) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $7.5, Hero calls $7.50.
River: ($25.10) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $14, Hero calls $13.80 (All-In).
Final Pot: $52.70
Results in white below:
Hero has Kd Js (two pair, kings and jacks).
Button has 5c 5d (three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: Button wins $52.90.
i have 1 fucking good night out of 7. every other fucking night.... everyone hits sets and runners and shit and i lose every single big pot.
i went up 200 yesterday.... my best fucking day every at ring. tonight... right the fuck back down.... minus $50 more. back to my getting fucked in every pot more than $5.
everytime i post a hand everyone is always "call call call". and every fucking time i've called and lost a huge pot. i'm not talking just this thread.... i'm talking all my posts.
i don't get how i can be a good tourney player at micro stakes and get fkkin pounded in ring micro stakes... looke it up... jerdood.
how the fuck can you be profitable when you are calling in all these spots and losing your whole stack. that's fucking insane.
this is fucking bullshit. |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Jul 2008, 1:53am Post subject: |
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Flush

Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Posts: 280 WPP: 98
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here's another.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Button ($9.65)
Hero ($24.10)
BB ($50.55)
UTG ($24.40)
Preflop: Hero is SB with K , K . UTG posts a blind of $0.25.
Button calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, Button calls $0.75.
Flop: ($2.35) 3 , 5 , 9 (3 players)
Hero bets $2.25, Button raises to $8.65 (All-In), Hero calls $6.40.
Turn: ($19.65) 4 (3 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($19.65) 7 (3 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $19.65
Results in white below:
Hero has Ks Kd (one pair, kings).
BB has (one pair, kings).
Button has 6d 7d (straight flush, seven high).
Outcome: Button wins $19.65. |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Jul 2008, 1:55am Post subject: |
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Flush

Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Posts: 280 WPP: 98
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here's another.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (3 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Button ($17.75)
Hero ($24.75)
BB ($25.70)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 6 , 6 .
1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.
Flop: ($0.50) K , 5 , 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.4, BB calls $0.40.
Turn: ($1.30) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.3, BB raises to $2.6, Hero raises to $24.1 (All-In), BB calls $21.50.
River: ($49.50) A (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $49.50
Results in white below:
Hero has 6c 6s (three of a kind, sixes).
BB has 4d 7d (straight, eight high).
Outcome: BB wins $49.50. |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Jul 2008, 2:00am Post subject: |
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Flush

Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Posts: 280 WPP: 98
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down $300. i can't even afford to fkkin sit at 25NL.
i fkkin quit this shit. |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Jul 2008, 2:44am Post subject: |
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Straight

Joined: 29 Oct 2007
Posts: 200 WPP: 80
Location: Rotterdam, Holland
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how many tables do you play and for how long? 300$ swings per session at 25NL is quite large imo.
idk, but i'm not folding the last 3 hands or genitruc's hands, so standard coolers. also do you think you might have tilt issues? that when you lose one of these hands you play worse after? because this is like normal pots you lose ($-wise) and you claim you went from 300 up to 50 down or something. where are the other losing hands?
btw. dont forget, you also win hands like these when you get the straight/flush against other guys' trips. |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Jul 2008, 3:18am Post subject: |
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Flush

Joined: 05 May 2005
Posts: 446 WPP: 250
Location: Australia
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| CorbinDallas wrote: | here's another.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (3 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Button ($17.75)
Hero ($24.75)
BB ($25.70)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 6 , 6 .
1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.
Flop: ($0.50) K , 5 , 6 | | | |