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Posted: Thu, 09 Oct 2008, 5:44pm Post subject: whats your 3bet %
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Full House
Joined: 30 May 2006
Posts: 1331
WPP: 139
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just started looking at 3bet percentages and would like some idea of where other players are at
im currently 5 |
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Posted: Thu, 09 Oct 2008, 6:00pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 3815
WPP: 142
Location: Ballarat, Australia
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| I'm around 4 atm, dropped a bit recently. I'm in the midst of rethinking my 3-bet bluff ranges both IP and OOP and atm have almost stopped 3-bet bluffing OOP while I do. |
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Posted: Thu, 09 Oct 2008, 6:13pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 1899
WPP: 66
Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Thu, 09 Oct 2008, 6:28pm Post subject:
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Royal Flush
Joined: 12 Dec 2003
Posts: 17644
WPP: 82
Location: Walk the Walk, Flop the Flop.
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Between 5 and 6.
It's very game texture driven. |
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Posted: Thu, 09 Oct 2008, 6:38pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 05 Jul 2006
Posts: 4914
WPP: 81
Location: Pwnsylvania
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| how the hell can it be 4% Ben? That's like JJ+,AQ+ |
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Posted: Thu, 09 Oct 2008, 7:27pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 06 Sep 2006
Posts: 2106
WPP: 97
Location: Toronto'ish
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| Fnord wrote: | | It's very game texture driven. |
Yah this.
If there are people that call too many 3bets and stuff, then I'll probably be around 7.
If people are folding a lot of 3bets, then I'm probably around 9-10. |
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Posted: Thu, 09 Oct 2008, 7:42pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 716
WPP: 79
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Thu, 09 Oct 2008, 7:44pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Posts: 979
WPP: 64
Location: bluffing scare cards
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| This month I'm around 6. I think 8 is a solid number and overall I'm probably close to that. |
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Posted: Thu, 09 Oct 2008, 8:04pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 3815
WPP: 142
Location: Ballarat, Australia
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I flat with JJ & AQ a lot. Also until a little lightbulb went off in my head I didnt use to 3-bet much IP at all, which is kind of the opposite of how I should be playing.
3-betting is definately a hole in my game, I just dont want to race in and overhaul it too quickly without thinking things through. People still seem to pay off my big hands and most players suck postflop so I feel more comfortable seeing flops cheaply than building bigger pots preflop. Something I need to get over. |
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Posted: Thu, 09 Oct 2008, 8:15pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 06 Sep 2006
Posts: 2106
WPP: 97
Location: Toronto'ish
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| bjsaust wrote: | I flat with JJ & AQ a lot. Also until a little lightbulb went off in my head I didnt use to 3-bet much IP at all, which is kind of the opposite of how I should be playing.
3-betting is definately a hole in my game, I just dont want to race in and overhaul it too quickly without thinking things through. People still seem to pay off my big hands and most players suck postflop so I feel more comfortable seeing flops cheaply than building bigger pots preflop. Something I need to get over. |
I play like this sometimes as well. It really all depends on the players. If someone is calling too many 3-bets OOP then you should just 3-bet them for value with hands like AQ/AJ etc. If people aren't calling enough then 3betting with more junk is probably better and sometimes flatting with hands that actually have value. |
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Posted: Thu, 09 Oct 2008, 8:22pm Post subject:
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Season VII
Joined: 04 Aug 2004
Posts: 2407
WPP: 101
Location: HotLanta
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| I have run right around 5% for the last three months. |
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Posted: Thu, 09 Oct 2008, 8:39pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 3815
WPP: 142
Location: Ballarat, Australia
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| Yeah, thats one spot where I understand the theory Griffey, but when it actually comes down to it I dont make those adjustments as much as I should. |
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Posted: Thu, 09 Oct 2008, 8:57pm Post subject:
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Straight
Joined: 04 Jun 2007
Posts: 247
WPP: 103
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| bjsaust wrote: | | Yeah, thats one spot where I understand the theory Griffey, but when it actually comes down to it I dont make those adjustments as much as I should. |
+1 |
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Posted: Fri, 10 Oct 2008, 1:20am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 1297
WPP: 71
Location: Montreal
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Posted: Fri, 10 Oct 2008, 1:38am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 29 Mar 2007
Posts: 948
WPP: 90
Location: Deventer
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| I'm at 5-6, but most of my opponents don't open a wide range and call 3bet's IP a lot. If I'm playing against more TAGs or LAGs I think I'd go up to 8-10. |
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Posted: Fri, 10 Oct 2008, 3:07am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1293
WPP: 112
Location: surfing in a room
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Posted: Fri, 10 Oct 2008, 3:50am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 22 Jun 2005
Posts: 1567
WPP: 83
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| mine varies too, on average it's 8. |
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Posted: Fri, 10 Oct 2008, 3:52am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 22 Jun 2005
Posts: 1567
WPP: 83
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| winning a lot of small pots is more and more important now imo. |
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Posted: Sun, 12 Oct 2008, 1:29pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 17 Aug 2007
Posts: 1442
WPP: 141
Location: GA
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Posted: Sun, 12 Oct 2008, 10:34pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 10 Aug 2007
Posts: 2035
WPP: 70
Location: the ether
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| 4-5 at fullring, higher at 6-max cos of being in the blinds more often... |
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Posted: Sun, 12 Oct 2008, 11:54pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 01 Oct 2006
Posts: 753
WPP: 115
Location: Santa Cruz
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Posted: Mon, 13 Oct 2008, 12:26am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 1899
WPP: 66
Location: Richmond, VA
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| daven wrote: | | 4-5 at fullring, higher at 6-max cos of being in the blinds more often... |
I 3bet more IP if you're implying 3betting in the blinds vs. stealers a lot. |
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Posted: Mon, 13 Oct 2008, 2:08am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 20 Dec 2005
Posts: 3407
WPP: 85
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| off-topic : am i strange if my 4-bet % is 19? |
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Posted: Mon, 13 Oct 2008, 2:40am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 29 Mar 2007
Posts: 948
WPP: 90
Location: Deventer
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| Genitruc wrote: | | off-topic : am i strange if my 4-bet % is 19? |
Not necessarily. But it's at least very uncommon, afaik. |
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Posted: Mon, 13 Oct 2008, 2:52am Post subject:
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Straight
Joined: 29 Oct 2007
Posts: 233
WPP: 77
Location: Rotterdam, Holland
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| I have 5, but working on getting it higher. |
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Posted: Mon, 13 Oct 2008, 3:01am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 05 Jul 2006
Posts: 4914
WPP: 81
Location: Pwnsylvania
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| Genitruc wrote: | | off-topic : am i strange if my 4-bet % is 19? |
so this means you 4bet 1/5th of the time you get 3bet?
If you 4bet TT+,AKs,AKo then this makes sense to me along with about 40 other combos of air. |
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Posted: Mon, 13 Oct 2008, 3:10am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 20 Dec 2005
Posts: 3407
WPP: 85
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| ppl 3-bet LP opens like monkeys and don't 5-bet shove enough obv |
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