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Posted: Tue, 08 Jul 2008, 3:54pm Post subject: (5.50) TT turns flush vs LAGGY! |
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Flush
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
Posts: 546
WPP: 74
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Hero (t1860)
UTG (t1240)
MP1 (t2103)
MP2 (t1005)
CO (t2107)
Button (t3050)
SB (t2135)
Preflop: Hero is BB with T , T .
2 folds, MP2 calls t50, 1 fold, Button calls t50, SB completes, Hero raises to t250, MP2 folds, Button folds, SB calls t200.
Flop: (t650) 3, Q , 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t350, SB calls t350.
Turn: (t1350) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.
River: (t1350) 8 (2 players)
SB bets t1535 (All-In), Hero ??? |
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Posted: Tue, 08 Jul 2008, 4:01pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 3325
WPP: 148
Location: Ballarat, Australia
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| If he's really laggy and not just loose, then its hard to find many diamonds > T in his SB limp/calling range. He may even have something dumb like a straight here. I think I call. |
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Posted: Tue, 08 Jul 2008, 4:57pm Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 07 Jul 2005
Posts: 7806
WPP: 135
Location: Sydney
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Personally I would fold this. There are four diamonds that beat you, any one of which he could well have. If he didn't have a diamond I doubt that even a LAGG player would shove since that's akin to suicide on this board. And even if he was retarded enough to shove Qx without a diamond on this board, you're still smoked.
If the A and K were out on this board then I would probably lean towards calling, however. |
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Posted: Tue, 08 Jul 2008, 4:58pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
Posts: 546
WPP: 74
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Posted: Tue, 08 Jul 2008, 5:17pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 3325
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Location: Ballarat, Australia
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A LAG isnt limp/calling with Ax or Kx, which leaves Qxs and Jxs, and I 've gotta think QdXd would raise flop.
| Quote: | | even if he was retarded enough to shove Qx without a diamond on this board, you're still smoked. |
Not sure what you mean here.
Like I say, depends on a bit on whether you really mean he's LAGgy, or if you just mean he's loose. |
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Posted: Tue, 08 Jul 2008, 5:39pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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| Ok, he's more loose and active than he was Laggy. He's played at least 70% of the hands to this point. He's been floating a LOT of flops... calling a lot of raises preflop...VERY LOOSE!.... He usually bets sometime postflop even into aggression. |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Jul 2008, 1:50am Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 12 Mar 2007
Posts: 626
WPP: 77
Location: screw sngs
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| I don't understand anything from his river shove so I fold.. he might be angry because the 4th diamond came and have a set or a rivered JT(typical favorite hand that will call any raise preflop), he might have Jd and be trying to get called by only the hands he's beat.. who knows? you can get in a better spot imo.. |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Jul 2008, 3:29am Post subject: |
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Straight
Joined: 24 Mar 2008
Posts: 239
WPP: 136
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IMO there are loads of players at this level that take wild swipes at pots. Depending on your own image, a loose player could figure you probably aren't going to call without a A, K or Q.
1250 already in pot and he has pushed ~1500. He only needs to win this hand slightly more than 1 times out of 2 to make it +EV. Of course the odds you are holding an A, K or Q (and therefore calling) are slim, and I suspect you are folding this board more than 50% of the time.
It's just another way to think about the hand. |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Jul 2008, 4:11am Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 07 Jul 2005
Posts: 7806
WPP: 135
Location: Sydney
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| bjsaust wrote: | A LAG isnt limp/calling with Ax or Kx, which leaves Qxs and Jxs, and I 've gotta think QdXd would raise flop.
| Quote: | | even if he was retarded enough to shove Qx without a diamond on this board, you're still smoked. |
Not sure what you mean here. |
Sorry, forget what I wrote, I got confused.
Still, this sort of line could well be somebody who has been chasing with a diamond and now realises that this is his last chance to get some chips in the pot. |
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Posted: Wed, 09 Jul 2008, 4:33am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 3325
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Location: Ballarat, Australia
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| Oh, for sure. I just think theres more chance he has a worse flush than a better one, especially if he missed a c/r on the turn it could be some kind of lower SC thats frustration shoving. |
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