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taipan168
Post Posted: Thu, 15 May 2008, 6:08am    Post subject: ATo with 15x BB, A on flop ($27) Reply with quote
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Opp's stats were 19/0/0.7 over 27 hands. Was the real mistake made here by not folding preflop from the HJ?

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MP2 (t2045)
CO (t635)
Button (t2600)
SB (t1485)
BB (t2100)
UTG (t1460)
UTG+1 (t1670)
Hero (t1505)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, T.
2 folds, Hero raises to t250, MP2 calls t250, 3 folds, BB calls t150.

Flop: (t800) A, Q, 8 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t600, MP2 calls t600, BB folds.

Turn: (t2000) Q (2 players)
Hero bets t655 (All-In)
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drmcboy
Post Posted: Thu, 15 May 2008, 6:37am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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there is nothing worse than the 50/100 level with ~1500 chips

I often check this flop, but with the many gut shots you could fold leading is probably better.
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fdnypoker
Post Posted: Thu, 15 May 2008, 7:26pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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with 19/0/.7 and a call of your preflop bet I may put opp on 10-10 to QQ and maybe AKs. Figure they would reraise with AA or KK. Would that be in the ballpark?

On the flop you have backdoor nut flush draw, gut shot str8 draw and the ace. I think the bet is OK however it leaves you in that low stack area where sometimes a push is better here. Is that to aggressive?
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mukaka
Post Posted: Fri, 16 May 2008, 2:07am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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check calling is better than leading IMO because I don't think he's calling that bet with anything you beat.. He's not calling a worse Ace pre-flop.. I'd check the flop but probably wouldn't fold unless both of them are showing action..
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Post Posted: Fri, 16 May 2008, 6:37am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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fdnypoker wrote:
with 19/0/.7 and a call of your preflop bet I may put opp on 10-10 to QQ and maybe AKs. Figure they would reraise with AA or KK. Would that be in the ballpark?


It'd be much better to do the opposite and reraise with TT-QQ and AK and just call with AA and KK.
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Post Posted: Fri, 16 May 2008, 8:05pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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It'd be much better to do the opposite and reraise with TT-QQ and AK and just call with AA and KK.


Sorry I don't follow? can you explain?
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Post Posted: Sat, 17 May 2008, 12:55am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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AA and KK or strong enough you dont really want people to fold. So you call PF, and let them at least c-bet postflop for more chips. TT-QQ you dont mind too much if they fold to your 3-bet, since postflop can get more difficult, so you want to keep your decisions easy.
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