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zook
Post Posted: Mon, 15 Oct 2007, 8:08pm    Post subject: 5/10 - JJ in 3bet pot 180bb deep Reply with quote
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Villain is 31/10/3 over 200 hands. He has been 3betting a lot recently, but not me. My only note is that in an earlier hand he 3bet pre, checked behind an AT4 two-tone flop, raised a turn donkbet and folded to a 3bet push getting great odds. So he may be bluffy.

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Stack sizes:
Hero: $3377
UTG+1: $1794
CO: $459.10
Button: $780
SB: $1846.50
BB: $1403

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with J Club J Diamond
Hero raises to $35, 2 folds, Button calls, SB raises to $130, BB folds, Hero calls, Button folds.

Flop: 4 Heart 4 Spade 5 Heart ($305, 2 players)
SB bets $280, Hero calls.

Turn: 7 Club ($865, 2 players)
SB bets $690, Hero...
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Post Posted: Mon, 15 Oct 2007, 9:15pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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sux cuz your hand is face-up and if anything, at the top of the range he puts you on

seems pretty 0 ev vs a thinking aggro villain

raising is kinda sick though and I think I prefer it to calling
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Post Posted: Mon, 15 Oct 2007, 9:37pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Pretty easy fold I think.
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Post Posted: Mon, 15 Oct 2007, 11:27pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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pocketfours wrote:
Pretty easy fold I think.
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minSim
Post Posted: Tue, 16 Oct 2007, 3:37am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Genitruc wrote:
sux cuz your hand is face-up and if anything, at the top of the range he puts you on


If villain knows this, shouldn't we call here then?
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Post Posted: Tue, 16 Oct 2007, 9:23am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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minSim wrote:
Genitruc wrote:
sux cuz your hand is face-up and if anything, at the top of the range he puts you on


If villain knows this, shouldn't we call here then?


I don't think this is necessarily at the top of the range villain puts him on. As long as you play AA/KK like this from time to time. I don't see why we can't have AA/KK here. Call in position PF. Flat call the rag flop.. there are some draws but I'd be more worried about the hearts than 67.
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Post Posted: Tue, 16 Oct 2007, 11:52am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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btw i obv wasn't saying it was a great place to bluff, just suggesting that I'd prefer value-bluff raising to calling if you're continuing, unless you're convinced about calling a river barrel.

It should get him to fold QQ, big draws and maybe KK once in a blue moon. Also for protection, since if he ever 2 barrels TT or 99 (unlikely I know...), you're prob never getting any money out of him on the river unless he hits a 2 outer.
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Post Posted: Tue, 16 Oct 2007, 2:45pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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sauce123 wrote:
pocketfours wrote:
Pretty easy fold I think.
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Post Posted: Tue, 16 Oct 2007, 3:08pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Too bad this isn't 100bb or I'd just shove the flop.

Yeah, I probably fold too.
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Post Posted: Wed, 17 Oct 2007, 9:08pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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sauce123 wrote:
pocketfours wrote:
Pretty easy fold I think.
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