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Posted: Tue, 14 Mar 2006, 9:44am Post subject: 1st Hand Heads up
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Full House
Joined: 03 Aug 2005
Posts: 1063
WPP: 166
Location: Germany
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Push or no push?
0/0 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 21005373) - Tue Mar 14 00:47:08 EST 2006
Table Speed Happy Together (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: fasin8ing1 (8710)
Seat 5: hoovsurdaddy (11290)
fasin8ing1 posts ante (25)
hoovsurdaddy posts ante (25)
hoovsurdaddy posts small blind (400)
fasin8ing1 posts big blind (800)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to fasin8ing1 [ As, 4d ]
hoovsurdaddy raises (1200) to 1600
fasin8ing1 calls (800)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8d, 8s, Ad ] |
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Posted: Tue, 14 Mar 2006, 9:52am Post subject:
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Season I
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
Posts: 2359
WPP: 74
Location: Dallas, TX
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| Twice every day. Three times on Sunday. |
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Posted: Tue, 14 Mar 2006, 10:13am Post subject:
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Season VII
Joined: 04 Aug 2004
Posts: 2409
WPP: 101
Location: HotLanta
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| In a fricken heartbeat. Even if he has an A with a higher kicker you still have a great shot at splitting the pot (unless he has AK or AQ). |
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Posted: Tue, 14 Mar 2006, 11:00am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 03 Aug 2005
Posts: 1063
WPP: 166
Location: Germany
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| He min raised the flop ... 8 is not out of the question. Min raised with a A higher kicker? Maybe A 8 ... Would it be ok to throw down 800 on the flop ???? Or push all day ... every day? |
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Posted: Tue, 14 Mar 2006, 1:22pm Post subject:
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Season I
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
Posts: 2359
WPP: 74
Location: Dallas, TX
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| I push EVERY SINGLE DAY with the possible exception of January 22, 2008. I have a dentist's appointment that day. |
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Posted: Tue, 14 Mar 2006, 1:32pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 03 Aug 2005
Posts: 1063
WPP: 166
Location: Germany
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| LeFou wrote: | | I push EVERY SINGLE DAY with the possible exception of January 22, 2008. I have a dentist's appointment that day. |
I should have gotten my tooth pulled out.. Kinda the same feeling. You really schedule out that far? Impressive.
Results - Only cause .. ummmm.. Im still pushing next time and the time after and time after that.
0/0 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 21005373) - Tue Mar 14 00:47:08 EST 2006
Table Speed Happy Together (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: fasin8ing1 (8710)
Seat 5: hoovsurdaddy (11290)
fasin8ing1 posts ante (25)
hoovsurdaddy posts ante (25)
hoovsurdaddy posts small blind (400)
fasin8ing1 posts big blind (800)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to fasin8ing1 [ As, 4d ]
hoovsurdaddy raises (1200) to 1600
fasin8ing1 calls (800)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8d, 8s, Ad ]
fasin8ing1 bets (7085)
fasin8ing1 is all-In.
hoovsurdaddy calls (7085)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8c ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 5c ]
Creating Main Pot with $17420 with fasin8ing1
** Summary **
Main Pot: 17420 |
Board: [ 8d 8s Ad 8c 5c ]
fasin8ing1 balance 0, lost 8710 [ As 4d ] [ a full house, Eights full of aces -- As,Ad,8d,8s,8c ]
hoovsurdaddy balance 20000, bet 8710, collected 17420, net +8710 [ 8h Kd ] [ four of a kind, eights -- Ad,8h,8d,8s,8c
fasin8ing1 said: awwwwww dudeeeeeeeee |
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Posted: Tue, 14 Mar 2006, 1:59pm Post subject:
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Season VII
Joined: 04 Aug 2004
Posts: 2409
WPP: 101
Location: HotLanta
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| That wouldn't faze me one bit. I would still push that flop in a fricken heartbeat EVERY minute of every hour of every day. |
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Posted: Tue, 14 Mar 2006, 2:05pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 03 Aug 2005
Posts: 1063
WPP: 166
Location: Germany
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| fasin8ing wrote: |
Im still pushing next time and the time after and time after that.
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Gator.. I agree. |
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Posted: Tue, 14 Mar 2006, 2:15pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 6696
WPP: 66
Location: Somewhere in middle america
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| I'm checking trying to make sure I get my chips in and can pick off a cont bet. Certainly you aren't folding here. |
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Posted: Tue, 14 Mar 2006, 2:21pm Post subject:
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Season VII
Joined: 04 Aug 2004
Posts: 2409
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Location: HotLanta
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| drmcboy wrote: | | I'm checking trying to make sure I get my chips in and can pick off a cont bet. Certainly you aren't folding here. |
Slow playing/trapping is certainly an option here. In this case I would push because people tend to be overly aggressive in the first couple of heads up hands, which may make this look like a steal attempt.
I can certainly see the value in check/raising though if you think your opponent will bet. |
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Posted: Tue, 14 Mar 2006, 2:29pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 6696
WPP: 66
Location: Somewhere in middle america
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| What is the value of the push? HU I'm not too worried about the flush draw and I expect him to lead here. The problem with flat push is you're typically only going to be called by another A, which you may or may not be ahead of. Check lets you pick up chips from any hand. It may LOOK like a steal, but surely you aren't saying you expect a call from K high or 66? |
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Posted: Tue, 14 Mar 2006, 2:48pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 29 Oct 2005
Posts: 1101
WPP: 126
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[quote="drmcboy"]What is the value of the push? [quote]
Finally, someone with some reason. Fasin8ting, this was my reason for you to seperate this hand from your other post. |
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Posted: Tue, 14 Mar 2006, 2:52pm Post subject:
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Season VII
Joined: 04 Aug 2004
Posts: 2409
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Location: HotLanta
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| drmcboy wrote: | | What is the value of the push? HU I'm not too worried about the flush draw and I expect him to lead here. The problem with flat push is you're typically only going to be called by another A, which you may or may not be ahead of. Check lets you pick up chips from any hand. It may LOOK like a steal, but surely you aren't saying you expect a call from K high or 66? |
Good points |
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Posted: Wed, 15 Mar 2006, 3:04pm Post subject:
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Season I
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
Posts: 2359
WPP: 74
Location: Dallas, TX
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i think a push gets called by any pp half the time.
when you push this board, it does not actually LOOK like you really have an ace. |
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Posted: Wed, 15 Mar 2006, 3:11pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 6696
WPP: 66
Location: Somewhere in middle america
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| if opp has a PP, you're saying he's more likley to call the push than lead himself? That just doesn't make any sense. He's drawing to a two outer if worst case he checks behind, and then you actually have disguised your hand for your turn push. |
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Posted: Wed, 15 Mar 2006, 4:14pm Post subject:
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Season VII
Joined: 04 Aug 2004
Posts: 2409
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Location: HotLanta
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| If opp has a pp and DOESN'T lead out, he certainly isn't going to call a push, unless he is trying to trap you. |
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Posted: Wed, 15 Mar 2006, 6:36pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 08 Sep 2005
Posts: 580
WPP: 52
Location: Southern california
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| i go for a check raise here. |
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Posted: Wed, 15 Mar 2006, 7:04pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 03 Aug 2005
Posts: 1063
WPP: 166
Location: Germany
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| LeFou wrote: | i think a push gets called by any pp half the time.
when you push this board, it does not actually LOOK like you really have an ace. |
What does it look like ? An eight?? right.. So if I had any PP .. Iam not calling that broke ass flop. I dunno.. man.. I think I pick better spots with the blinds @ 400 and 800 .. My M is still at 10 .. and I dont even think its good enough to risk with any PP JJ and below.. anything above that Id be pushing to start with. I mean .. holding an ace on that flop you hope he has an ace for a split. Dude pulled these quads out his rear. Tough one.. I look back now and think a check raise... fold to an all in would be fine. However; with another 8 .. I couldnt lay down a boat.. I go broke with this hand.. And I did..  |
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