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Posted: Sat, 21 Jan 2006, 5:29pm Post subject: Questionable two pair hand.
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 28 Jan 2005
Posts: 2521
WPP: 92
Location: Arlington, VA
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This opponent is a fairly good, "solid" player. Fairly aggressive, but not overly so. He has a typical preflop reraising range, I think. What do you do here, and why?
I'll share the latter streets and results later.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) FTR Hand History Converter
Hero ($240)
CO ($388.05)
Button ($169.70)
SB ($182.65)
BB ($95.50)
UTG ($483.55)
Preflop: Hero is MP with 9 , 8.
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, CO raises to $20, 3 folds, Hero calls $12.
Flop: ($43) Q , 8, 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $8, Hero ? |
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Posted: Sat, 21 Jan 2006, 5:42pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
Posts: 1590
WPP: 42
Location: Coldbrook, NS
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| Call and scare the shit out of him or min raise to do the same. I go for the call in case he wants to be a tard and push your min raise. |
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Posted: Sat, 21 Jan 2006, 5:56pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 16 Apr 2005
Posts: 949
WPP: 56
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| AHiltz wrote: | | Call and scare the shit out of him or min raise to do the same. I go for the call in case he wants to be a tard and push your min raise. |
Indeed, but the $8 bet alone says he's already scared shitless  |
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Posted: Sat, 21 Jan 2006, 7:37pm Post subject:
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Royal Flush
Joined: 12 Dec 2003
Posts: 17644
WPP: 82
Location: Walk the Walk, Flop the Flop.
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I would call and see a turn.
The money is too deep and the donk factor is too low for me to want to raise here. Folding to that silly bet would be....well.... silly. |
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Posted: Sat, 21 Jan 2006, 7:40pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Posts: 1201
WPP: 146
Location: Honolulu
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I would call and lead a blank turn for 2/3 pot. If the turn is a scare card, then check/fold. I would seriously think about folding preflop though. I'm not sure stacks are deep enough to justify a call here, but I could very well be wrong.
dsaxton - are you playing only 6-max now, or do you still play full ring? Do you find that 6-max is a lot more profitable? I'm wondering because I'm thinking of playing a lot more 6-max. |
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Posted: Sat, 21 Jan 2006, 7:41pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 16 Apr 2005
Posts: 949
WPP: 56
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| bdawg56kg wrote: | | Do you find that 6-max is a lot more profitable? I'm wondering because I'm thinking of playing a lot more 6-max. |
I have made more profit in the last week of 6max then I have in the previous months of sporadic full ring play. Mainly because other players give less credit for my bigger hands |
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Posted: Sat, 21 Jan 2006, 8:03pm Post subject:
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Royal Flush
Joined: 12 Dec 2003
Posts: 17644
WPP: 82
Location: Walk the Walk, Flop the Flop.
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| outphase wrote: | | I have made more profit in the last week of 6max then I have in the previous months of sporadic full ring play. Mainly because other players give less credit for my bigger hands |
Quoted for truth.
Although the Bodog game was probably comperably good.
So many players with HUGE holes in their game. |
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Posted: Sat, 21 Jan 2006, 9:53pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 28 Jan 2005
Posts: 2521
WPP: 92
Location: Arlington, VA
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| I think you have to put him on a hand in order to decide how to continue. What hands do you think this player will underbet on the flop like this? |
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Posted: Sat, 21 Jan 2006, 11:18pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 14 Aug 2005
Posts: 84
WPP: 119
Location: 100NL 6max
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| bdawg56kg, if you are bored of full ring, give 6max a try. 6max is definately more profitable. That means the downswings are bigger also. If you can handle the swings and don't buckle under pressure, I would highly recommend 6max to you. If you like to multi-table full ring, I suggest starting out with no more than 2 6max tables. Playing 1 is the safest bet. Because you will be put to a lot of tough decisions, so almost every play is very read dependent. |
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Posted: Sun, 22 Jan 2006, 1:43pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 28 Jan 2005
Posts: 2521
WPP: 92
Location: Arlington, VA
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After his preflop reraise, his likely hands are A-A, K-K, Q-Q or A-K. But his vast flop underbet was very suspcious, I thought. I was actually planning on check-raising all-in until he made this bet. It seemed obvious he was inviting a call, possibly from an unbeatable hand. I reasoned that since he would have at least some interest in winning the pot right away with an overpair, top set, or A-K high, and since his bet was clearly inviting a call, A-K of spades was his most likely hand. I thought my implied odds for hitting a 4 outter were enormous, so I called. The turn brought a miracle 8 of diamonds, and the rest of the hand was easy.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) FTR Hand History Converter
Hero ($240)
CO ($388.05)
Button ($169.70)
SB ($182.65)
BB ($95.50)
UTG ($483.55)
Preflop: Hero is MP with 9, 8.
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, CO raises to $20, 3 folds, Hero calls $12.
Flop: ($43) Q, 8, 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $8, Hero calls $8.
Turn: ($59) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $20, Hero raises to $58, CO raises to $360.05, Hero calls $154 (All-In).
River: ($631.05) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $631.05
Results in white below:
Hero has 9c 8c (full house, eights full of nines).
CO has As Ks (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins $483. CO wins $148.05. |
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Posted: Sun, 22 Jan 2006, 3:26pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
Posts: 1590
WPP: 42
Location: Coldbrook, NS
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| I had him on AA or KK and scared of the flush. Guess I was dead wrong. Nice suckout ya fish :biggrin: |
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Posted: Mon, 23 Jan 2006, 6:41pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 28 Jul 2004
Posts: 2911
WPP: 107
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Posted: Wed, 25 Jan 2006, 1:53pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 08 Sep 2005
Posts: 580
WPP: 52
Location: Southern california
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| that is why they make those small bets so people think it is weak. I usually look at it as strength expecially at smaller limits that i play. |
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Posted: Wed, 25 Jan 2006, 9:28pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Posts: 1720
WPP: 154
Location: B N L
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good play. definitely not a suckout. you paid $8 for your part of a $480 pot.
what were you, 1:5 to improve and getting 60:1? |
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