Loose flop calls in reraised pots HU

I see all-in calls on the flop with low pairs in reraised HU pots all the time, but used to think it's a pretty donkish play. Yesterday witnessed the same while watching a HS HU game.

Is this standard play in loose HU games?

I usually don't make these calls, but perhaps I should give them more consideration? Pot odds are pretty decent here, but not even close to correct against a higher pair.

Dealt to BB [ 7C,9D ]

Ongame Texas Hold'em $100-$100 NL (Real Money)
Table Isfahan, 3 Jun 2007 8:38 PM ET

Seat 3: BB ($9,799 in chips)
Seat 7: BUTTON ($16,361.05 in chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
BUTTON posts blind ($50), BB posts blind ($100).

PRE-FLOP
BUTTON bets $300, BB bets $1,250, BUTTON calls $1,000.

FLOP [board cards 8H,3D,7H ]
BB bets $2,100, BUTTON bets $15,011.05 and is all-in,
BB calls $6,349 and is all-in.

I bet you these two guys have thousands of hands of history together. Its no longer ever about the cards -- hes probably calling with bottom pair if he has the other guy on a bluff.

Trust me.. watching high stakes HU has nothing to do with the low stakes you play at. At the low stakes the cards matter the most. Here its all about reads and past experience.

I mean wow idk that anyone here is qualified to give advice at this level.

I don't like the threebet pre because i dont like calling here.

I like how you played it besides the preflop reraise.

It would be nice to have reads and history though. I'm guessing if you reraised 97 there you've been RRing a lot. Which means you pretty much have to call the flop push if the opponent is loose and aggressive. This could easily be an underpair as well as a semi bluff or pure bluff.

It's an interesting call, and given the drawyness of the flop I can see why it was made.

Yet, isn't BB mostly either a bit ahead or way behind? Would Button make that push with anything less than a couple of overs?

Also, I've been wondering this a lot.. How much would it change our possiblilty of calling if it was a rainbow flop? What about if we had the 9h instead of the 9d?

If BU's range is *very* wide I guess we can call. I don't think we can every be really happy about it. We need like 40% equity (to be happy, I think 0 EV is like 35%)

If we are behind we usually have ~23% equity. If he has overs then we have like 75%.
Draws we are about 50-50, maybe a little better.

Cancelling draws and sets/2p - roughly we need him to have overs almost as often has he has TP+. If he has like 66 we are in great shape, but this is mostly cancelled by the times he has a 7 and better kicker (bad).

I guess it's not as bad as that, becuse even with 42% equity is this an easy call. Break even I guess is maybe:

25% draws + sets + 2 pair
50% 1 pair ahead of us
25% overs/lower pair

I dont think the call is interesting at all, this is one of the better flops we can hit, and if the game is played this loosely it's not like he's folding a lot of flops.

The interesting part is preflop, which i really dont like with a loose image. But idk, i wish gabe and aces and sauce would chime in.

if there has been tons of re-raising PF button has to play back which BB knows. you guys should do some equity calculations before saying how crazy this call is. high stakes HU hands depend sooooooo much on the flow of the game..

I am currently a measly .25/.50 FR NL player, but this looks incredibly standard, even the 3bet. At HS HU, BTN should be semi-bluffing here often. The most important factor here, obviously, is game flow and and player images/tendencies. OP states the game is loose; so there you have your answer.

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