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Alexos
Post Posted: Thu, 13 Sep 2007, 12:52am    Post subject: Good spot to bluff? Reply with quote
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I think I rep a strong hand here, flush, boat, etc... I dont raise a 7 on that flop, but he's a fish so I figure the river 7 is a good card for me anyways.

CryptoLogic - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 3 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $990.00
BB: $272.00
BTN: $1,352.00

Reads: [color:blue]Villain is fishy and plays 35/15 over a small sample size, but has been opening every other pot lately.[/color]

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8Club AClub (3 Players)
[color:red]BTN raises to $30.00[/color], Hero calls $25.00, BB folds

Flop: ($70) 7Heart 3Diamond 4Diamond (2 Players)
Hero checks, [color:red]BTN bets $50.00[/color], [color:red]Hero raises to $150.00[/color], BTN calls $100.00

Turn: ($370) KDiamond (2 Players)
[color:red]Hero bets $225.00[/color], BTN calls $225.00

River: ($820) 7Spade (2 Players)
[color:red]Hero bets all-in for $585.00[/color], BTN folds
Uncalled bet of $585.00 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $820.00 ($2 Rake)
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silu73
Post Posted: Thu, 13 Sep 2007, 4:52am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I like it a lot. Your line looks very strong and your bet sizing is perfect. I like preflop with reads as well.
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pocketfours
Post Posted: Thu, 13 Sep 2007, 5:34am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Looks pretty spewy to be honest.
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Alexos
Post Posted: Thu, 13 Sep 2007, 9:50am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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So whenever you take that line on flop, do you just check/fold the turn?

Or whenever you lead the turn, do you c/f river?
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sauce123
Post Posted: Thu, 13 Sep 2007, 3:33pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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i like it given u hit like perfect/perfect
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IowaSkinsFan
Post Posted: Thu, 13 Sep 2007, 6:36pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape

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A lot of people tend to shove there Fd's on the flop, we at least have to think he does that sometimes. As well as raising his fd on the turn. He didn't do either, so a flush is a very small part of his range.
We also have a lot of QQ-88 which has to fold to the shove. I think the best part of the 7 is that it can appear to be a good card for him but it really isn't, and you aren't shutting down from it and that's got to be scary.

I wish you didn't post the results though.
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Pelion
Post Posted: Thu, 13 Sep 2007, 6:44pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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IowaSkinsFan wrote:
I think the best part of the 7 is that it can appear to be a good card for him but it really isn't, and you aren't shutting down from it and that's got to be scary.


Explain this please. You mean he thinks his line looks like a set/FH but we think he would have played that differently?
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Massimo
Post Posted: Wed, 19 Sep 2007, 3:20pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Almost as bad as that idiot heybude
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hate flop c/r.

like everything else.
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Alexos
Post Posted: Thu, 20 Sep 2007, 11:47am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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...why so?
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IowaSkinsFan
Post Posted: Thu, 20 Sep 2007, 12:27pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape

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Pelion wrote:
IowaSkinsFan wrote:
I think the best part of the 7 is that it can appear to be a good card for him but it really isn't, and you aren't shutting down from it and that's got to be scary.


Explain this please. You mean he thinks his line looks like a set/FH but we think he would have played that differently?


well clearly one hand that is in his range is Ad7. He hits a 7 on the river and you just shoved! The 7 hit part of his range but you havent slowed down, your essentially repping a super good hand. This is essentially the concept of making your opponent make a super huge lay down. Your flush draw hit, your two pair made a boat, your set made a boat. You have so many hands in your range you play the same way that have your opponent fucked.

On another note There aren't too many 7's in his range though. I'd say the bulk of his range is 88-JJ.
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IMSAKIDD
Post Posted: Sat, 22 Sep 2007, 7:21pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I think once the river falls you should c/f because he could have a set that didnt want to shove turn
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IMSAKIDD
Post Posted: Sat, 22 Sep 2007, 7:21pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Its hard to see what youre repping also
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Evansgambit
Post Posted: Sun, 21 Oct 2007, 5:16am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I find the play quite confusing and not consistent, your trying to represent a big hand like a flopped set turned Fullhouse. Despite that alot of players will slowplay the set at that point on the flop. Its not clear what you have, except the fullhouse or a bluff.

Can someone tell me how this works on the turn and river?

Frankly given your re-raise on the flop - I would just try to represent top pair on the flop - put him of AK, given that the preflop raiser did not re-raise me there. Check the turn after him when the king hit (he probably doesn't like with AQ, or he likes it with AK and slow plays), and then try and represent trips on the river. That 7 is a good card for you, given the raised preflop.

If you called on the flop, you could have represent the flush. Which would also be good. Then you can make a big Turn bet.

All comments welcomed.
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