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Posted: Fri, 30 Oct 2009, 2:07pm Post subject: yes, it's sometimes good to donk
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Full House
Joined: 10 Feb 2009
Posts: 851
WPP: 179
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Here I am donking the turn from early position. I'd only played a couple of orbits, but I had a note on MP1 that he continued to raise AA when there was a 4 card straight on the board. So I figured if he had an overpair, he'd pay me off on the turn. Which he did.
PokerStars Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 5 , 5
1 fold, Hero calls, MP1 raises, 1 fold, MP3 3-bets, 1 fold, Button calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls
Flop: (14.4 SB) 8 , 5, 2 (4 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, MP3 calls, Button raises, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls
Turn: (11.2 BB) 4 (4 players)
Hero bets, MP1 raises, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls, MP3 calls
River: (20.2 BB) J (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP3 calls
Total pot: $11.60 (23.2 BB) | Rake: $0.40
Results below:
Hero had 5, 5 (three of a kind, fives).
MP1 had 9, 9 (one pair, nines).
MP3 mucked A , A (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: Hero won $11.20 |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Oct 2009, 2:12pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 4209
WPP: 150
Location: St. Louis, MO
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| why are we not b/3b'ing this flop? we have hella equity, an overpair overplaying read on villain, and a fd out there along with a small chance of a straight draw, too. if the draw completes on the turn, we will get hella action with a 10 out redraw. no one is going to fold this flop to our lead, and its very likely that in a 3bet pf hand, someone will overplay JJ+. |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Oct 2009, 2:23pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 10 Feb 2009
Posts: 851
WPP: 179
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| Chopper wrote: | | why are we not b/3b'ing this flop? we have hella equity, an overpair overplaying read on villain, and a fd out there along with a small chance of a straight draw, too. if the draw completes on the turn, we will get hella action with a 10 out redraw. no one is going to fold this flop to our lead, and its very likely that in a 3bet pf hand, someone will overplay JJ+. |
I suspected that if I led the turn rather than on the flop, I would actually play into the villain's tendency to overplay his hands. I want him speeding up, not slowing down, when the bets get bigger. In retrospect, I might squeeze a bit more out of this hand by being aggressive on the flop (I would prefer a check-raise to a b/3b, but OK), but what I ask myself in this spot is "how can I get the villain to spew as many chips my way on the turn and river where the bets are bigger?", because if I can do that, I really don't care how many chips go in on the flop. |
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