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Posted: Fri, 30 Oct 2009, 10:14pm Post subject: ~~ WW Halloween Dead Thread ~~
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One Pair
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 1:52pm Post subject:
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Flush
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 1:53pm Post subject:
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Not a thinking person
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I had to make a friendly edit to one of your posts, JKDS  |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 1:59pm Post subject:
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Flush
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AH HA FOUND IT!
and i could swear it was a 13...ah well my mistake. woulda came out a lil earlier had i known...but w/e we got a zombie. |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 2:00pm Post subject:
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OLD MAN RIVER
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 2:02pm Post subject:
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Not a thinking person
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| Alright quick reminder not to talk strat/anythingaboutthisspecificgame here but you can talk game mechanics. |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 2:12pm Post subject:
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Flush
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| So the vig shoots before the alpha recruits, no? |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 2:13pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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| its sad that even with spenda's weak defense of himself he still got 1/2 the votes rescinded. |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 2:36pm Post subject:
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Season VIII
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 2:42pm Post subject:
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Season VII
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| XxStacksxX wrote: | | I love you guys! |
lol |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 2:43pm Post subject:
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Full House
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| arghhhhhhh just typed up a long defence as well...... |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 2:44pm Post subject:
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Season VII
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| bode wrote: | | its sad that even with spenda's weak defense of himself he still got 1/2 the votes rescinded. |
I only rescinded because of the "if stacks is a zombie Spenda most likely isn't" argument.
You get one early in this game, I got one early in last game. Us old people know how to do this!!!
Well done Old Man Warpe, well done. |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 3:22pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
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So correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like every night we lynch a zombie, we don't get a medium, so the zombies can recruit somebody, with the exception of the slight chance of the angel protecting who they pick.
Which means every morning after lynching a zombie, we wake up and there are the same number of zombies in our village. So we have to not only lynch one of the two zombies, but also successfully shoot the other (again, a somewhat slim chance) on the same night, to win?
Jaysus. |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 4:03pm Post subject:
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Flush
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 4:15pm Post subject:
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Season VII
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| and unless I am missing something shouldn't the game be over? |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 4:27pm Post subject:
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Straight
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| GatorJH wrote: | | and unless I am missing something shouldn't the game be over? |
shhhh dont jinx it bud. |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 4:40pm Post subject:
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Season VIII
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| So who's gonna be the lucky individual to put a bullet in my head? |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 6:56pm Post subject:
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Not a thinking person
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alpha recruits before vig shoots, also take a look at the halloween special rule for the alpha 
also, there will always be an alpha zombie, so gl village |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 7:14pm Post subject:
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Season VIII
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| lolzzz_321 wrote: | alpha recruits before vig shoots, also take a look at the halloween special rule for the alpha
also, there will always be an alpha zombie, so gl village |
imo |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 7:21pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| lolzzz_321 wrote: | | alpha recruits before vig shoots |
So how the hell do we win? Even if we lynch one and shoot the other we still have to protect the totally random right person aswell? Thats pretty ridiculous. |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 7:30pm Post subject:
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Flush
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| I like these rules. This should be a good one! Gogogo alpha and vig! |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 7:31pm Post subject:
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One Pair
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Only a few scenarios where the village gains ground against the zombies (or holds it, which favors the village because they outnumber the zombies so the number of zombie votes reaches 0 first):
1- villager hung, recruitment blocked (by the angel or medium), vig shoots zombie = -1 votes for villagers and zombies
2- zombie hung, zombie recruited, vig shoots zombie = -1 votes for villagers and zombies
3- zombie hung, recruitment blocked (by the angel), vig shoots villager = -1 votes for villagers and zombies
4- zombie hung, recruitment blocked (by the angel), vig shoots zombie = -2 votes for the zombies
Every other scenario has the zombies gaining ground against the village. The above 4 scenarios all involve a lot of luck on the village's part, as well. |
Last edited by StillDeadMoney on Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 7:38pm; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 7:31pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
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| Pelion wrote: | | lolzzz_321 wrote: | | alpha recruits before vig shoots |
So how the hell do we win? Even if we lynch one and shoot the other we still have to protect the totally random right person aswell? Thats pretty ridiculous. |
This. And without a medium it's not like we've got very high chances of protecting said right person. |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 7:33pm Post subject:
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Season VIII
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 7:37pm Post subject:
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One Pair
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almost forgot:
5- zombie hung, recruitment blocked (by the angel), vig does not shoot or shoots a protected villager = -1 vote for the zombies |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 7:59pm Post subject:
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH
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| I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around there always being an alpha zombie. But, that won't matter. Since we'll all be eventually recruited and therefor be on the winning team! |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 8:13pm Post subject:
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH
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why is it that the seer had to post openly about who he found and couldn't simply pm the vig with the target? Y'know, to balance out the immortal recruiting power of the wolves and avoid having the alpha sacrifice himself grabbing 2 wolf recruits?
Trip, man, these rules seem gay. I really hope the wolves recruit me. Because the village can't win. If the wolves get more than 3 people, it's basically game over with a perpetual alpha. |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 8:21pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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| i dont want to hear it, the rules were awful for the zombies before the alpha thing surfaced |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 8:24pm Post subject:
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH
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lol, you're right. They were horrible with you're recruiting power cut to 2/3rds on days when villagers are lynched!
My bad, game on! You guys totally deserve a 95% winning percentage for surviving 2 days under false pretenses. |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 8:26pm Post subject:
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH
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| The super angel vrs an infinite alpha is not a balanced fight |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 8:30pm Post subject:
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH
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Just let the alpha sac himself, making 2 normal zombos. Then let the village hunt them down. Drop the supa-angel, the medium and lets just run it out like a normal WW.
2 wolves have done it against incredible odds before. And it's not like the 2 days already past will help us find them. |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 8:43pm Post subject:
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Season VIII
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| a500lbgorilla wrote: | lol, you're right. They were horrible with you're recruiting power cut to 2/3rds on days when villagers are lynched!
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Lol if you think this is the only thing we had going against us. |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 8:50pm Post subject:
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 8:54pm Post subject:
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Flush
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| they had a competent seer that would find little things and wtf pwn identify zombies like no other amirite??? |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 8:59pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
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| Quote: | | I think there's a 0.0001% chance that spenda's a zombie |
AMIRITE |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 8:59pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| JKDS wrote: | | I am the seer and spenda is not a wolf |
yeah.... something like that  |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 9:00pm Post subject:
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Season VIII
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| Sorry, but can't right now. Most probably know what I'm referring to, but if not, I don't want it to affect gameplay. |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 9:02pm Post subject:
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Flush
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| pshh WHATEV. it was good logic! |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 9:03pm Post subject:
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Season VIII
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| JKDS wrote: | | I think there's a 0.0001% chance that spenda's a zombie |
Wrong...
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I am the seer and spenda is not a wolf |
Wrong...
| JKDS wrote: | | I AM THE BATMAN AND STAX IS A WOLF |
??? |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 9:08pm Post subject:
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH
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| XxStacksxX wrote: | | Sorry, but can't right now. Most probably know what I'm referring to, but if not, I don't want it to affect gameplay. |
Alright, anyone from the "most" side of things wanna explain? |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 9:08pm Post subject:
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Flush
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psh, who'd thunk you'd go all willy nilly attacking your comrades when it wasnt even known theyred be an infinite alpha yet?
and i AM the batman |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 9:10pm Post subject:
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Flush
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 9:12pm Post subject:
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Full House
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| a500lbgorilla wrote: | Just let the alpha sac himself, making 2 normal zombos. Then let the village hunt them down. Drop the supa-angel, the medium and lets just run it out like a normal WW.
2 wolves have done it against incredible odds before. And it's not like the 2 days already past will help us find them. |
THIS....if theres always an alpha I can't see how the village can ever win without the medium permanently blocking conversions then the next day lynching a villager to get the medium back then shooting a wolf every other night.
Just let the special rule kick in allowing the sacrifice and 2 new zombies and drop the alpha wolf/medium/angel of death.whilst interesting the math didnt work and rules seem to be made to try and force it back to a fair fight but end up taking it too far the other way. |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 9:14pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
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If the super angel of supertown can defend himself indefinitely, then the village seems to always win, albeit only by extreme luck or shooting villagers one-by-one until there are two villagers left: A zombie with nobody left to recruit, and Mr Badass Angel himself.
Kinda lame? |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 9:22pm Post subject:
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH
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| The village cant always win based on the angels ability to survive the entire time because the wolves number can never diminish. Consider that we hit this one out of the park through 2 days and we're still going to lose. |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 9:25pm Post subject:
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH
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Even if we knew who the 2 new wolves were, if 1 were the alpha, we would likely lose?
We'd lynch wolf 1, they'd recruit a new 1 over night, then day 2 we'd lynch the other. Even if we knew who the 3rd were, when we shoot him at night, the 4th appears. Then we'd have to know the 4th and lynch him the next day to win.
cliffs, we're 3 days of perfect villager play away from winning at this point. |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 9:59pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
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| a500lbgorilla wrote: | | The village cant always win based on the angels ability to survive the entire time because the wolves number can never diminish. Consider that we hit this one out of the park through 2 days and we're still going to lose. |
The wolves number can diminish, because eventually they run of villagers to recruit. That's what I was driving for with "lame". |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 10:10pm Post subject:
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Not a thinking person
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Meh, I didn't balance things well at all. I just kind of wanna redo this one and do a more more classic alpha ones.
If not, we can keep this game running and do something like 'rilla suggested and let the alpha choose 2 or 3 non alpha zombies.
Lol @ spenda complaining |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 10:16pm Post subject:
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Season VIII
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| Meh.. I'm fine with whatever.. I'll either be dead tomorrow, and not care. Or start up another game. But only if I can be the alpha and everyone must play dumb until at least Night 5. |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 10:27pm Post subject:
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH
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| I think we could toss all the names back in the hat and start fresh |
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